Posted by ed_uk2010 on March 23, 2018, at 16:38:04
In reply to Re: insomnia on Nortrip! Help me block the NE SLS » SLS, posted by bleauberry on March 23, 2018, at 14:13:20
Hi Blue,
Here's my take on it :)
>Pessimism and condescension are not helpful in psychiatry, if you ask me. Just my opinion.
That's something I strongly agree with. The right attitude is needed to get well. The treating physician should attempt to pass some of this positivity on to the patient. There is no possibility of getting someone to engage by acting in a condescending manner. I think this is one of the reasons for benefit when people see an alternative therapist ie. they feeling that they are being listened to and given choices in their treatment which they have control over. This can be very therapeutic, and is one advantage of herbal medicine.
>I was fortunate to run into two doctors and one nurse practitioner who knew how to undo the treatment resistant part of the equation. I say that is good. But you say not so fast. I don't get that. ???
I'd say that is really good. BUT, what I'd also say is that in conditions such as depression which are exceptionally variable (in potential cause, presentation, treatment response, course and outcome), it is very difficult to apply your own treatment response to other people, including when you have the incomplete picture created on a forum. So, I'd only say 'not so fast' in assuming that others respond the same way.
A program based on herbs and antibiotics is one possibility in mental health. And an interesting one. I have myself taken long courses of antibiotics for non-psychiatric reasons, as well as several herbs. My mental health was not affected. Depression is very individual, and although positivity is important, I also think it's important to present treatment ideas as exactly that - ideas, and not definitive general solutions.
>when there is a comprehensive game plan that involves more than just psychiatric mono-therapy.
Now this is something I find interesting. To me, suggesting Lyme and micro-organisms as being the major cause of mental illness isn't really comprehensive or holistic. Already, it is assuming one particular type of causation, rather than a range. Certainly, this may apply to you and some others, but that doesn't mean it applies to everyone.
You could for example say.... those suffering from chronic treatment-resistant depression should be considered for a course of antibiotics, minocycline, for example. I think that would be reasonable. It is one of the possibilities.
To me, the most important thing here is about maintaining an open mind when standard options fail. In conditions such as depression, chronic fatigue and other multi-factorial illnesses, I wouldn't want to apply one particular causation or general treatment regimen to everyone. That could lead to more problems eg. when antibiotics fail, what next.
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