Posted by Lou Pilder on September 5, 2016, at 9:38:49
In reply to Re: This forum's been ruined. Dr Bob should be ashamed » jonhed, posted by Larry Hoover on September 4, 2016, at 15:17:07
> > I really think that we save lives.
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> The people here saved mine.
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> Patients do not fit nicely into cubby-holes of either diagnosis or treatment. In fact, in order to be included into a clinical trial for a specified illness, the subjects must not have comorbidities. And yet, the treatment is applied without considering the implications of this narrow focus.
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> I met a number of Babblers in Toronto, some years ago, when Dr. Bob was presenting at the American Psychiatric Association annual convention. I well recall the response of psychiatrists attending Bob's session when I proposed that the doctors should listen more closely to their patients. It was heretic, in some respect, when I proclaimed that my own recovery was more closely linked to Psychobabble than it was to my monthly visits with a psychiatrist. Even Bob seemed shocked, but he never discussed it with me.
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> Some months ago, I mentioned that I had "graduated" from babble. What I meant was that my life's focus was shifted towards reinvention. I'm not well, by any objective measure of wellness. I would estimate that I function at somewhere between 30 and 70% of a healthy me. Now, I focus on managing function, rather than being focused on dysfunction.
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> Am I healed? No. Am I like my peers in business? No. But if my illness affects a business or personal relationship in a significant way, I reveal, and let the chips fall where they may.
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> If I told you where I was right now, the conference I'm attending, you probably wouldn't believe me. But, putting one foot in front of the other, pushing for the light at the end of the tunnel, and reaching out for, accepting, and appreciating the supports available to me, has worked. It worked for me because the people here understood what it was like.
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> And then there's Lou. I used the past tense in my closing sentence in the last paragraph for a reason.
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> <sigh>
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> LarFriends,
Larry Hoover does not actually state that he takes these drugs promoted here as medicines. He is intelligent and know the chemical structure of these drugs and I have not seen a post where he takes these drugs. And I would be shocked if someone posted a link here where he says he takes psychiatric drugs in the last couple of years.
Mr. Hoover's recovery could be short-lived. For the poison of hate that Hsiung allows for him to post here could turn against him and he could be drawn into the vortex of one of the pathways of hate that Hsiung creates and develops here that shows hatred toward the Jews to be good for him and his community as a whole so he thinks.
And then there's Lou? What does that mean, can you tell?
Lou
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