Posted by Lou Pilder on July 29, 2016, at 8:55:27
In reply to Lou's response-Mr. Hsung allows false conclusion » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on July 29, 2016, at 7:25:24
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXQa0T_tHy8
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> > Lou, this is the same guy as in the other video where he said 200,000 per year in the U.S. die. Here he says 500,000 deaths per year in the U.S. and Europe in people 65 and older from antidepressants, anti-psychotics, and benzodiazepenes. Let's check actual death statistics for this set of drugs.
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> > Deaths in U.S. in 2010
> > 22,134 pharmaceutical drug deaths, including
> > -- 6,419 (29.4%) benzodiazepenes
> > -- 3,895 (17.6%) antidepressant
> > -- 1,351 (6.1%) antipsychotic & neuroleptic
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> > So this gives
> > -- 11,665 U.S.
> > -- 26,829 Europe (estimate based on population ratio of EU to U.S., assuming similar drug usage)
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> > Which sums to 38,494 deaths. How many of those people were over 65? Let's be generous and say half (population is approx 15% over 65). So 19,247 deaths are verifiable. Yet he is claiming 500,000, which is over 25 times the actual amount. It's absurd! This guy is talking out of his butt!!
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> > When you see something this far removed from verifiable facts, then anything else he has to say is suspect. I think he is making it up as he goes to sell books and gain notoriety. Charlatans like this can generate BS faster than anyone can fact check it. You need to be a little more discriminating in your information sources.
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> > Source http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1653518#sthash.5R28HcNo.dpuf
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> > Friends,
> The poster here uses statistics that are not relevant to her conclusion. This gives you a false idea that these drugs are safer than they really are and could lead you to your death.
> One of the statistics she uses is deaths by psychiatric drugs in the JAMA report. But those were deaths only by overdose, not all deaths from psychiatric drugs.
> The fallacy here is enormous and can not be allowed to stand as fact. This is the tragedy here by Mr. Hsung not interceding to point this out so that you could be seriously misled to your deaths. There are more fallacies in Tabatha's argument...
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> Friends,
Be not deceived. The attempt to discredit one of the world's great researchers on the adverse effects of psychiatric drugs is appalling in that what the poster gives as a conclusion that his research is false, is false data.
This is allowed here by a psychiatrist that could seriously mislead you to your deaths by accepting Tabitha's claim that the researcher is talking out of his butt. He is not, for there are many ways to compile deaths from psychiatric drugs that Tabitha has left out. Do you think that in his interview there would not have been brought up the aspects of his research to question?
Let us look at this video for there can be determined in courts of law that the drug caused the death. And you that want to mislead others to think that you will not be killed by these drugs, are in denial, and you can contact the survivors of those killed by the drugs and tell them that the drug did nit kill their spouse or child even though it can be determined by methods unbeknownst to you that these drugs can kill in many ways.
Lou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWr1GK7w1uE
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