Posted by Lou Pilder on April 25, 2016, at 15:43:39
In reply to Re: is it true? » Lou Pilder, posted by Tabitha on April 25, 2016, at 14:23:25
> > Tabitha,
> > You wrote that Christianity is a religion that promises dramatic salvation as a reward for giving up ordinary human pleasures.
> > I know of no basis that those professing Christianity are rewarded with dramatic salvation by giving up ordinary human pleasures. I would like for you to substantiate your claim so that I could respond accordingly. The substantiation would need to come from doctrine promulgated by some Christendom sect or from some other, unbeknownst to me, source.
> > Lou
>
> I'm not really making a controversial claim here. There are any number of Christian sects that promise eternal life in heaven for the faithful and require the members to lead restricted lifestyles in order to maintain their "saved" status.
>
> My knowledge comes from personal relationships with members of such groups, and from reading memoirs and blogs by ex-members. There are many, many similar stories.
>
> You can verify it yourself easily enough. Some groups to research are Quiverfull, the Apostolic Church, the FLDS, the Amish and Mennonites.
>
> Friends,
Be not deceived. The poster wrote,[...Christianity is a religion that promises dramatic salvation {as a reward for giving up ordinary human pleasures}...].
Then the switch to:
[...some Christian sects promise eternal life in heaven for the faithful and require the members to live a restricted life style in order to maintain their "saved" status.....].
Be not deceived. Those are two different topics and her reply is not to my request. The central teaching of Christianity is that people are saved by having faith in the Anointed One. That faith is different from giving up, let's say, smoking.
You see, Christianity is a Jewish belief. It is a belief in receiving a new heart and a new spirit. Christianity calls this being born again. And when this Jesus of Nazareth was talking to a Jewish leader, this Jesus said to him that he must be born from above to enter the kingdom of God. And the man asked how?
He answered by saying that a Jewish leader like himself should know that. This means that in the scriptures that the Jews use, it is written there. An if we look in the book called Ezekiel in the 36th chapter verse 26 we see:
[...A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you...].
And then there was a conversation between them that has been revealed to me as to how you can have a new heart and a new spirit. You see, it has been revealed to me that Christian people become Jews when they are born from above.
And in the encounter, the Rider said to me, "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you."
The central teaching of Christianity is not that you have hair covered or polygamy or live as a recluse or anything outside of the Great Commandment. There are numerous groups claiming to be Christian no doubt that teach salvation outside of faith in the Anointed One. That does not stretch to what the poster here says in the she says that Christianity is a religion that promises salvation by giving up pleasurers. There may small groups that teach that, but that does not mean that Christianity teaches that. To say that because there are some small groups teaching that the earth is flat, that does not mean that all of the science community teaches that. Some teachings are false. Some are outright lies.
I have come here to have revealed to you the truth so that you can see the lies exposed. The Spirit of Truth is hovering above with healing in His wings.
Lou
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