Posted by Hello321 on April 18, 2016, at 10:32:54
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-The Spirit of Truth is watching, posted by SLS on April 18, 2016, at 6:11:52
> > Anyone else on here we should consider banning because their message goes against us in our search for more pills? I don't wanna eat better or do anything else that might make my life better, I want more pills! Something with a neat, scientific sounding name would be preferable. They say exercise could help improve mood, but the only way I'm doing that is if "science" could like, put exercise in a pill for me. And anyone who realizes their life was screwed by taking these pills, well, let's pretend their experience never happened because it might impede us on our search for more pills!
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> Did pills ever work for you? If not, have you ever entertained the notion that you don't have an illness that pills are designed to treat?
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> Mr. Pilder exaggerates and overgeneralizes and goes out of his way to scare people using misinformation and disinformation, as is often presented by book-writing, cherry-picking charlatans who refuse to use science as a method of helping people. Which antidepressants do you feel have never greatly improved someone's affective disorder? By the way, as much as eating better and exercising (anaerobic and aerobic) more has undoubtedly improved my overall health, they haven't improved in anyway my crippling bipolar depression. I suppose I should rail against Nautilus and Nordic Track as being hoaxes.
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> Pills work.
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At the least Lou doesn't ignore the fact that there's more out there that can help than just pills. I know what treatment resistance feels like. And because of it, my mind has been opened to the fact that there are so many possibilities out there, that have nothing to do with taking another pill. Possibilities that "science" backs. Ways that can help that are much less likely to be damaging than another pill. Sure, this is a medication forum. But when you have sick people coming here for help, who only know about the world of psychiatric treatments, and are seeking help from others who only point them to more psychiatric meds, they are closed off from so much more. I read about science often. I don't just read magazine articles about science. I like to get into the details as much as possible. I dont claim to know everything, but neither do the "experts". And what many do, is avoid the details as much as possible. What do we get? More pain and suffering. More people who get stuck.There is no science behind any idea that an antidepressant corrects any dysfunction in the brain. No science, Scott. At the end of the day all we know is that a certain amount of folks took a certain chemical and it benefitted their well-being in one way or another. But we also know just as well that this chemical has had detrimental effects on the well-being of others. Then we ignore that lives have been ruined by these chemicals. These chemicals have contributed to suicides. We tell ourselves there's no way for these chemicals to cause someone to feel and possibly act homicidal. When anyone ignores all this, then they themselves also should be ignored. And they ARE being ignored. Because all they're shown is the wonderful world of psychiatric pills. They hardly know any better. And if they don't kill themselves because of direct effects of a pill, then they kill themselves because no pill has helped.
When you only know and present a small part of what humans know about improving ones health. Then you only give ohers a small chance at getting better. Lou's approach is hardly different from anyone elses on sites like this. He's presenting what he knows.
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