Posted by europerep on September 23, 2015, at 10:13:11
In reply to Re: Young people on SSRI's commit more crimes?, posted by hello321 on September 22, 2015, at 21:58:43
> But no, I haven't personally seen a baby regress around the time they received vaccinations. And I'm not certain about the idea of vaccines actually causing autism. But I have read on the effects of vaccines and how they interact with the immune system. And how our immune system interacts with the brain and I've decided autism being a result of vaccines is a reasonable suggestion.
I'm an "anti-spherer". I don't have conclusive evidence that the Earth is flat. But based on what I see when I look outside the window and when I walk on the street, the idea that the Earth is flat seems to be a reasonable suggestion to me.
Seeing your own reasoning, you must accept this kind of statement if you don't want to be hypocritical.
It is virtually impossible for a normal human being to verify all the things "they" tell us are true. So what makes more sense, in my view, is to target our (critically important) skepticism at methods. How are the facts we are told are true are established, who continuously checks back whether we have not made mistakes in the process, etc.?
So let's see: how has the knowledge of today's medicine been established, and by whom? Were it fairly ignorant non-conformists who "thought for themselves" and "came to their own conclusions"? Or were it medical professionals who learned and studied the (by definition incomplete or partially false) state of medical science at their time, applied it to patients in the real world and then, after years if not decades of doing that, kicked our knowledge of medicine a step farther by making a great discovery? I think the answer is obvious.
With all due respect, based on your posts here over the past few years, your knowledge of neurobiology is, at best, basic. (So is mine by the way, but then I don't go out and make absurd quasi-speculations which I claim are filling the gaps of "incomplete" science.) So if you now try to point out the gaps and limits of our understanding of neurobiology and medicine, I cannot take that seriously even for a second. Spend thirty years studying the stuff, and then go to talk to the guys (and girls) who have done the same. Until then, you are not more qualified to discuss this stuff than I am qualified to discuss the shape of the Earth based on my personal life experience.
And, just in case you now go back to your supposed analogy of how people are allowed to have their own thoughts about politics even though they are not the experts: there is a huge difference between facts and opinions. Anyone can have an opinion. But what you are explicitly trying to do with your posts about psychiatry is tell us that the *facts* are wrong. And for those kinds of claims there exists a burden of proof. You not only never deliver this proof, you seem to be unwilling to even acknowledge that the burden of proof is actually there. You have to do that, because you would fail spectacularly at meeting it.
And the same goes for the whole vaccine stuff: study it for years and then attack the knowledge that we have on the issue. Or don't do that and point out that you are just stating opinions, which will carry the same weight as my speculation on the shape of the Earth at the beginning of this comment.
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