Posted by Scleme1 on June 29, 2015, at 21:41:52
In reply to Lou's response-Dr. Quackenbush » scleme1, posted by Lou Pilder on June 29, 2015, at 20:37:59
> > Hi all. I am currently struggling a bit, and need some help. Every night, when I lay down to sleep, I get this nervous, restlessness feeling inside. The only way I know how to describe it is that it feels like nervous butterflies. Sometimes it comes in waves, and I have to move around or sit up in order to be able to deal with the feeling. I toss and turn until I finally get up and melt a clonazepam under my tongue. I've been taking .5mg clonazepam most nights, which helps a lot. Clonazepam + a warm bath usually does the trick. Once I get to sleep, I typically sleep well through the night with no problems and wake up rested. However, I would really like to get to the bottem of this problem. Am I dealing with Akathisia or some form of Restless Leg Syndrome?
> >
> > I take 200mg of Zoloft every morning for anxiety/ocd. I have been taking this dose for about 3 years. Before that, I took 40mg Paxil/day for about 10 years. I've been dealing with this restlessness at night for about a year now. Some nights it's worse than others. It only affects me late at night when I lay down to go to sleep. It's not normal anxiety. I know what that feels like, and that isn't it. It's not my mind racing or general anxiety. It feels more like that feeling you get as a kid when you're going to do something really exciting the next day, and you can't go to sleep no matter how hard you try.
> >
> > I am seeing my doctor this week, and want to go in with as much information as possible so I can have a productive (and hopefully successful) visit. Here are a few things to consider:
> >
> > 1. I've been using an ecig for about a year now. I vape on it mostly all day and night. I started with a high dose of nicotine, but have lowered the amount significantly thinking the nicotine was causing the problem. The lower amount of nicotine doesn't seem to help much, but I'm still not sure this isn't the cause.
> >
> > 2. I don't have the best nutrition. I eat a lot of sugar and don't eat very healthy. Could this be a magnesium or B vitamin deficiency problem?
> >
> > 3. Most benzos DO help, but I don't want to take a benzo every day unless I absolutely have to. Propranolol didn't seem to help much at a 50mg does before bedtime.
> >
> > A few things I'm considering trying: B-Complex w/ Magnesium, Gabapentin, Mirtazapine, or Clonodine.
> >
> > Can anyone shed any light on this for me? Any similar experiences? Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Aaron.
> >
>
> Aaron,
> You wrote,[...need some advise...].
> What you are experiencing does come from taking mind-altering chemicals in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor for years. But is it any wonder that if you continue to take these chemicals that even worse could befall you, even death? You see, thousands of people are killed each and every month by these drugs that you take. And they could be addictive so that stopping them could put you in a state to want to kill yourself or others, even commit mass-murder.
> If you take the advise from me like a brother, it could all go in one ear and out the other.
> Go to your prescriber. Here is a hypothetical conversation with a hypothetical doctor, Dr. Quackenbush, and his client, Helen Weilz.
> Helen Weilz: I am here because I have a nervous and restless feeling inside, like akathisea. This Lou guy on a psychiatrist's site says that because I have been taking mind-altering drugs for years that the drugs could induce this condition.
> Dr. Quackenbush: He's right.
> Helen Weilz: Then how can this condition stop?
> Dr. Quackenbush: We try other drugs but the condition may be permanent.
> Helen Weilz: Well, would not it get worse if you gave me more drugs?
> Dr. Quackenbush: That could be.
> Helen Weilz: This Lou guy says that death could happen from these drugs if I keep taking them and that thousands of people each month are killed by these drugs. Is he right?
> Dr. Quackenbush: Yes, he is right.
> Helen Weilz: This Lou guy says that not only could death come to me from these drugs that if I stop them they are addictive and I could go into a worse state. Is he right?
> Dr. Quackenbush: Yes, he is right.
> Helen Weilz: Then I should have listened to him 15 years ago before I started taking these drugs from you.
> Dr. Quackenbush: Perhaps so, for I am considering quitting psychiatry and not be party to the deaths of people from these drugs. I do not want their blood to be upon me. I feel that I have been deceiving people and misleading them to think that the drugs are medicines, but they are just chemicals made from motor oil and the commercials on television make up the greatest successful false advertising campaign in history. What else does this Lou guy say?
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> LouLou > What's the matter with you? Thankfully, I know myself and the medications that I take well enough to understand that everything you are saying is bullsh*t. Why would you try and scare people with your lies and fearmongering? I do not appreciate your convoluted insight or help. Please do not post a response or any further comments in my thread. I would like to hear from honest, intellectual people. I think you might need to switch mess yourself!
Aaron.
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