Posted by Lou Pilder on June 3, 2015, at 5:36:28
In reply to Stop Almost All Psych Meds to Prevent Harm., posted by Phillipa on June 2, 2015, at 19:51:15
> So what do you think about this? Phillipa
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> 'Stop Almost All Psychiatric Meds to Prevent Harm,' Expert Says
> Liam Davenport
> June 01, 2015
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> EDITORS' RECOMMENDATIONS
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> Almost all psychotropic drugs could be stopped without causing any harm and with little loss of benefits, saving hundreds of thousands of lives and leading to happier and longer-lived populations, says a Danish expert in a head-to-head editorial debate.
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> Writing ahead of a debate in London over the use of psychiatric drugs, Peter C. Gøtzsche, MD, Nordic Cochrane Centre, Rigshospitalet, Copenhagen, Denmark, believes these medications offer few benefits compared with placebo and may cause more than half a million deaths per year in the United States and Europe.
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> Consequently, 98% of psychotropic drugs should be dropped. These include all antidepressant, attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder, and dementia drugs and all but 6% of the antipsychotics and benzodiazepines currently in use.
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> "Because psychotropic drugs are immensely harmful when used long term, they should almost exclusively be used in acute situations and always with a firm plan for tapering off, which can be difficult for many patients," Dr Gøtzsche argues.
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> Concerns "Overinflated"
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> In response, Allan H Young, MD, PhD, professor of mood disorders at the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology and Neuroscience at King's College London, believes that many of the concerns over psychiatric drugs are "overinflated."
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> Writing with John Crace, a psychiatric patient and parliamentary sketch writer for The Guardian newspaper, in London, Dr Young says that "psychiatric drugs are rigorously examined for efficacy and safety, before and after regulatory approval."
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> The editorialists add: "[They] are as beneficial as other treatments used for common, complex medical conditions."
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> The editorial was published online May 20 in the BMJ as part of the 52nd Annual Maudsley Debate.
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> In setting out his case against the current use of psychiatric drugs, Dr Gøtzsche says that randomized trials have overstated the benefits of the drugs, because "almost all" are biased.
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> This is because the patients are already taking another psychiatric drug. When they are then randomly assigned to receive placebo after a short washout period, they go "cold turkey" and experience withdrawal, thus exaggerating the benefits of the study drug.
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> In addition, many studies are inadequately blinded, and meta-analyses have indicated that the benefits of psychiatric drugs are minimal and often occur only a few days before similar effects are seen with placebo.
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> Deaths Underreported
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> More worrying, however, is the widespread underreporting of deaths associated with psychiatric drugs. Dr Gøtzsche estimates that there have been 15 times more suicides among people taking antidepressants than reported by the US Food and Drug Administration.
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> Using conservative excess death rates among people aged at least 65 years of 1% for antipsychotics, 1% for benzodiazepines and similar drugs, and 2% for antidepressants, he calculates that the drugs are together responsible for 3693 deaths per year in Denmark.
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> This translates to a staggering 539,000 deaths per year in the United States and European Union combined.
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> In conclusion, Dr Gøtzsche argues that, given the above, psychotropic drugs should be reserved almost exclusively for acute patients.
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> "We need new guidelines to reflect this. We also need widespread withdrawal clinics because many patients have become dependent on psychiatric drugs, including antidepressants, and need help so that they can stop taking them slowly and safely," he adds.
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> Long-term Harms "Minimal"
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> In contrast, Dr Young and Crace observe that "people with poor mental health often have poor physical health and poorer (long term) outcomes in both aspects of health."
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> The increased death rates seen in psychiatric patients are consequently only partly due to suicide and, in fact, are largely attributable to coexisting physical health disorders.
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> The authors add that an analysis of meta-analyses by Leucht et al revealed that psychiatric drugs are generally as efficacious as drugs used for other complex medical conditions.
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> Moreover, the long-term harms associated with psychiatric drugs are minimal if guidelines are followed, and several studies have indicated that there is an inverse correlation between mortality and cumulative use.
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> There are also several safeguards for the monitoring of drugs, including spontaneous reporting databases, prescription event monitoring, electronic health records, and patient registries.
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> "Taking all this into account, we contend that the motion that the long term use of psychiatric drugs is causing more meaningful harm than good is not correct and the evidence, such as it is, suggests the contrary," they conclude.
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> The editorialists have disclosed no relevant financial relationships.
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> BMJ. Published online May 20, 2015. AbstractPhillip,
You wrote,[...So what do you think about this?....].
Many of you already know that I have been trying so hard to save lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions by posting here what I think could save your life, the life of a child or one that is in your care that is prescribed psychotropic drugs. But there are prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung. Prohibitions that I think could mark the difference between you being a live person or a corpse. And I am abiding by those prohibitions.
So let no man deceive you and say that what I post here could cause your death or suicide. For I am abiding by the prohibitions to me and those that have been killed by the drugs allowed to be promoted here or had suicidal thoughts induced into them from the drugs and killed themselves, their blood will not be upon me. For I have come to seek those that are lost, those that are shackled to their drugs and to free the captives to be led out of depression and addiction into a marvelous life of peace and joy. This all would come from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me that is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung for me to post here. Yet today, it is supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record to allow anti-Semitic propaganda to be posted here with impunity and worse, that Mr. Hsiung states that by him doing such, it will be good for his community as a whole in his thinking for the anti-Semitism to be seen as supportive here even though it is against his rules to post what could put down those of other faiths.
You see, it has been revealed to me how these drugs kill not only the taker of the drugs, but innocent people being killed by the effects of mind-altering chemicals in the drugs inducing suicidal and homicidal thoughts in those that take them. And if the prohibitions to me by Mr. Hsiung were not posted to me here, I think that those that have been killed by the drugs here and any innocent people killed by readers here, could be alive today.
And you mothers. Before you allow your child to be drugged in collaboration with a psychiatrist, heed my warnings here by reading my posts here. And look at the posts that are allowed to decrease the respect , regard and confidence in which I am held and that could induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me that are allowed with impunity to be posted here that could also defame Judaism and me as a Jew here which could have in my thinking a singular purpose which IMHHHO could lead you astray to have contempt for Jews and me as a Jew here which IMHHHHO could contribute to a mind-set of hate that could be thought to be created and developed here toward Jews that could trap you into a vortex of depression as thinking that anti-Semitic hate is supportive by a psychiatrist that has strict rules not to post what could put down those of other faiths and worse, that by him allowing the hate to be seen as supportive here, it will in his thinking be good for this community as a whole. That argument has been used to justify slavery, to justify infanticide, to justify segregation, to justify discrimination, to justify genocide, to justify hate. And worse, My Hsiung states that he wants you to put your trust in him for what he does here. That is a powerful influence to have readers continue to take mind-altering drugs that could cause addiction and life-ruining conditions and death and to influence vulnerable readers to hate Jews.
You see, it has been revealed to me who was the first to tell people to put their trust in them that could lead to their deaths by following the trust. And who were those that followed the first that today led those following to their deaths. The article posted here by Phillipa agrees with me in what I have been trying to post here for years, and maybe you will put your trust in that doctor. And I think that's good. Thanks.
Lou
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