Posted by Lamdage22 on October 9, 2014, at 9:18:09 [reposted on October 14, 2014, at 19:45:46 | original URL]
In reply to Lou's reply-pseldum » Lamdage22, posted by Lou Pilder on October 9, 2014, at 7:41:39
> > > You wrote,[...it is human(')s choice to continue to take a medication that makes them hostile, isn't it?...].
> > > Would it be their choice if they were addicted to the drug that makes them hostile?
> > > Lou
> >
> > I think the answer to this question is no simple yes/no thing. I would say attenuated.
> > I think its not right to talk like this about ALL drugs. The drugs that (mostly) cause addiction seldom cause hostility.
> > And im not sure if the meds that can cause hostility also are addictive.
> >
> > If you could be more specific, i could give a specific answer.
> >
> L,
> How do you make the conclusion that the drugs that mostly cause addiction seldom cause hostility?
> LouExperience. Benzos don't make you hostile, Ambien doesn't make you hostile. These are that meds that are thought of as addicting in the traditional sense.
The only meds that i can think of that possibly fits your description would be Adderall, Ritalin or Vyvanse.
So what meds are you talking about? Because saying ALL meds can cause what you describe as a mix of addiction AND hostility is a bit unreflected.
How could something like SSRI MAOI or Tricyclics possibly be addicting if it is not helpful at all? Clearly, if it makes you mad enough to kill self and/or others, it is not helping and it is not a pleasant feeling either. Wouldn't most normally wired people immediately stop the drug, because they are worse?
I argue it is only certain people that wouldn't stop at this point. People that are holding a grudge. People that have felt resentful before and the drug only brings it to surface unfortunately.
Maybe people should be screened more for hostility.The only way that i can think of that someone hurts others because of a drug is that the subject has gone psychotic from lets say adderal and holds some kind of severe conspiracy beliefs and feels threatened. A mass murder that is not the result of the most severe and dangerous delusions isn't implemented by good people PERIOD.
No drug will turn an angel into a murderer and no drug turns a criminal into a saint.
I have had the most severe psychosis, so i have a reference point.
So to sum it all up, some drugs can make "bad" people worse, but they also make others better. In the case of SSRI not an awful lot, admittedly.
Schizophrenia and Depression
Seroquel 900mg
Zyprexa 2.5mg
Lithium orotate 480mg
Metformin 1500mg
Effexor 20mg
Please keep conspiracy theories to yourself!
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