Posted by AlexCanada on July 21, 2014, at 5:53:49
In reply to Re: Update on my status. Very Low Cortisol/adrenals!, posted by babbler20 on July 20, 2014, at 23:39:09
> This may come across as harsh, but I will save you years of speculation about what's wrong with you. Alternative medicine doctors tell everyone they have low adrenals. In reality, your adrenals are fine or you have Addison's Disease or Cushing's Syndrome. In reality, your adrenals are fine and you are just depressed and probably don't sleep well. You may not know you don't sleep well because you may have been sleeping insufficiently your whole life. I guarantee you that if you start getting at least 7 hours of sleep a night, you will feel much better. Try getting that amount of sleep without relying on a benzo. Benzo's often don't allow you to get restful sleep. Try Trazodone or Remeron for sleep. Trust me, your adrenals are fine.
Wow that's nonsense. I have been suffering for over a decade due to damage caused by Accutane. What it did I never fully understood but the damage has been long lasting.
I don't need some alternative doctor to tell me about low adrenals because I have not even seen one. I have only dealt with typical clowns who have no modern day knowledge about endocrine issues. To pretend that there is no such thing as adrenal issues is like pretending no one truly suffers from depression or low serotonin/dopamine etc.
The blood tests show it. As much as these clowns have tried to tell me that my thyroid is normal even though 5.1 TSH is outside range in almost every country except Canada. There is not one person in the world with a TSH of 5 whom will tell you they are reasonably healthy. But unless I am bleeding out of my ears and have my eyebrows falling out most of these terrible doctors won't listen and just tell me to take more anti deps.
Well all my problems may not be from the extremely low cortisol levels but likely at the very least a very large part of it. Likely I do have dopamine and serotonin issues as well as evidenced by the significant but temporary mood boost from certain serotonin substances such as Lyrica, Korean Ginseng among others.
Also some of most promising medications I have ever tried in my life have unknown to me actually had effect on adrenals. Ritalin/Dexedrine, Licorice Root, Vyvanse, Rhodiola etc.
I have gone through stages where I have slept 7-10 hours a day and my mood was no better. I have gone through hypo and hyperthyroid states. Often with immense tiredness, dreadfully poor energy, extremely low emotional capacity and overall sense of apathy. Hyper states involved immense irrational anxiety, dark thoughts and so forth.
Additionally I can only deduct that what I went through 2-3 months ago was a severe adrenal crisis when I stopped Licorice root and other substances were not playing well.
I tried Remeron before btw. Helped very minorly if I recall. Low dose and high dose. higher dose was less sedating. Still lousy days. Only these adrenal meds/herbs have had singnificant effect on my ability to think and usually overall mood.
If I could get off the benzos without intense dysphoric withdrawl I would but I am on only 1.5mg Valium. That is a pretty low dose. Unfortunately I may remain on it for a long time because withdrawl is too long and too intense. I can quit any medication, even paxil cold turkey and just tough it out for few weeks but... you cannot ''tough'' out crippling valium withdrawl which could last for months. It alters the gaba receptor. Benzos are absolute poison.
If I could get agomelatine (sleep + cortisol + Serotonin/D) then I would.
I may try emailing my doctor again. See if he will write me online script to order.
Over 2 dozen meds for depression with very minor relief. Paxil was one of the better ones, as was Parnate, but they lost their effect.
Also my testosterone is pretty low but not incredibly low like my cortisol.
Sorry I'm bit irritable this morning.
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