Posted by bleauberry on January 14, 2014, at 8:02:52
In reply to Flat feeling, no interests, posted by Sheilac on January 14, 2014, at 5:26:59
Flat emotions are a common outcome with most psychiatric drugs, but sometimes we get lucky and the drug works good. For a while anyway. They all do it....antidepressants, mood stabilizers, antipsychotics, benzos....but it completely depends on the person's unique physiology and how that drug works in that physiology. Mileage varies.
How do we know these effects are due to the drugs and not the thing you were trying to treat in the first place?
I don't feel confident adding anything in this thread except for this: use psychiatry as best you can to get the most relief you can....but not forever....it is for the time being only....the real goal is to correct what was causing the symptoms in the first place so that you can either lower or eliminate medications, along with the symptoms.
Those answer are not found in psychiatry. You will have to look outside the psychiatric toolbox because there are other great toolboxes that can take your journey to an improved outcome. The more tools the better, imo. The enemy is fierce, cunning, and strong. Lots of weapons are needed.
Where to look? Pretend you have Lyme disease. In my opinion, mine only, since you are here at pbabble, my personal journeys suggest you have a 7/10 or even 9/10 chance of having it or a similar co-infection. I don't want to get into a long book explanation of why I feel that way, it's just that I have yet to see this hypothesis proven false in real time real people.
When psychiatric patients focus on treating inflammation, toxin removal, and bacteria/fungal/viral reduction, they feel much improved. Sometimes cured. No meds needed. You do need the meds now however.
Every symptom you described, as side effects, are actually also what lyme commonly looks like. It looks confusing, bizarre, hard to treat, and is loaded with the stuff like "physical anxiety", irritable waves, lack of joy, lack of motivation. Looks exactly like depression actually. One of my lyme doctors said some of his lyme patients only had one symptom.....depression....it went away with antibiotics not antidepressants, though antidepressants were used during treatment until they could be successfully stopped later. Of note, those doses were often very small doses due to the exaggerated side effects and/or drug sensitivity.
Would Zyprexa do better than Geodon? I think so. Nothing better than zyprexa in my opinion, abilify too. I don't have much faith in Geodon but that's just because I have not seen it perform as well at pbabble. Limited population, anecdotal, but that's what I have seen. Prozac+zyprexa, happened to be very good to this lyme person for quite a while....that says a lot!
Herbal and OTC treatment of inflammation.
Cholestyramine for toxin removal.
Meds for anti-lyme if you can get them.
Herbs for anti-lyme if no meds.Doesn't matter if you have Lyme or not. The above strategies nail a great array of the causes of psychiatric symptoms of all kinds, but especially the ones that are not cooperating well in treatment.
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