Posted by bleauberry on December 17, 2013, at 5:29:45
In reply to Re: Treating Depression via the Immune System » bleauberry, posted by Mogger on December 13, 2013, at 1:36:37
I have no idea what they mean by false immune system treatments. That's a bizarre phrase that basically is empty and doesn't mean anything. I mean, what's false? What's not? Weird language they use. Even simple basic food choices impact the immune system positively and negatively. I don't know what they mean by false.
In the lyme world, many of the MDs believe the healing is not actually from killing bugs, but rather the immune system being reset back to normal by the antibiotics. How and why is still a topic of hypothesis. It happens clinically, that's all we know.
Doxycycline, tetracycline, minocycline, bactrim, factive, rifampin, cipro, and a couple others I forgot. Those I have been on.
As Scott said, the tetracycline family is a good general place to start. All of them have anti-inflammation as a side benefit. Mino is more geared for suspicions of intracellular bugs. Tetra is more likely to not plateau or not relapse. Doxy is the most common but tends to plateau and relapse. Mino is often the hardest to take because the Herxheimer reactions from it can be harsher.
Whole raw garlic at the end of a meal. Powerful anti-pathogen, anti-inflammation, and anti-toxin, all in one. There are a handful of excellent herbs as well. One that crosses over between the psych world and the lyme world really well is Rhodiola.
If someone goes into ABX treatment hoping it will help their mood problems, they need to know they are looking at a game plan that involves 6 months to 2 years. Less than that, total waste of time. I love that I have improved so much with ABX. 20 years of psych crap reduced from a severity of 10 to about a 2, all from ABX, not psych drugs. But what people need to know is, my improvement didn't even start to happen until the 2nd year on ABX. Whatever disease is going on that the ABX can help with, it has been there a long time, and is not going to be easily reversed in a short time. It takes a long time for disease to set in, and a long time to undo it. But undo it, we can indeed do that.
> Did you notice at the end of the article it says "beware of false immune system treatments" and list antibiotics as one of them? What antibiotic helped you as I would like to talk to my pdoc about it? He agrees about inflammation so I would like to propose trying an antibiotic.
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