Posted by Vincent_QC on May 19, 2013, at 10:47:49
In reply to Re: Anybody here remember the old Tuinal???, posted by rjlockhart37 on May 18, 2013, at 22:54:30
> the downer drugs in the 1980's was usally halcion, valium, Xanax which had been released 1981....there where still barb's....but they kinda went down in the 1970' when all this benzo craze with doctors came. You can still find doctors who do use barb's but there usally old school.....they have the classic view of treatment from previous stuff...
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> all I know is barbs are more sedating than benzos, they cause more of drunk like feeling, numbness....they make you wanna go to sleep.....benzos just relieve anxiety....so tuinal....yea all I know is elvis took that...and there also was a poster here named Ame Sans Vie...he died, he took seconal, Xanax, Adderall, couple other things....he died. That just kinda shows what those combination with barbs do.....there more dangerous.....
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> but yea....I just have wine when im strung out...and vodka lol
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> rOh that's sad, I didn't know that a poster here die from barb med mix with other ones...
I agree about the Tunial and the drunk feeling, but it was also very pleasant and euphoric feeling and stop all kind of anxiety...the benzo meds don't even toutch my anxiety anymore...they did it only in th first 4 months in 2005, and at the time I was used to drink vodka and a lot of beers with the clonazepam... Of course I don't drink anymore, since 2007 in fact, I think the last time i drink too much I had a 26 oz bootle of jack Daniels, was sick for 3 days and had many panic attacks in those 3 days even with the clonazepam, was at 4 mg day at the time... PDoc double the dose to 8 mg in 2007 and I never felt free of anxiety like when I take my first dose of clonazepam...
Here in the 80's the barb was still use a lot, especially the Tunial and the other one call red devil, I think it was soma or another one but it was bright red pills... We had also another one, a yellow and red pills but I can't find anywhere what kind of barb it was... And I wrote pills but all of them was in capsule... In 1990 they dissapear and was replace by the benzo... The Ativan was the most popular among drug dealers... Valium was also a popular one... But for me it was not fun drugs at the time, as a teen you want drugs who are more powerful! You are not scare of anything until you take bad drugs like too much pills of LSD and do a bad trip and start experiencing panic attacks out of the blue even when you are not on drugs!!! That's what happen to me and I always wonder if drugs was what trigger the panic disorder... Maybe it's also genetic since in my family half of the people's have depression and the other half have some anxiety issue... My grand mother had to be put in psychiatrist hospital often for major depression with anxiety... On both side of my family they deal with depression and anxiety, only my dad and my brother seem to be anxiety and depression free...
Anyway, you are right, Elvis took alt of barb meds, no wonder why he die so young... But he died sit on the toilet, probably straining too hard and causing a vagus nerve stimulation and cardiac arrhytmia or cardiac arrest...
I don't think that where I live I will be able to find a old school PDoc who will be willing to RX a barb med... Had a hard time to find one who wanted to RX the old maoi's like Nardil and Parnate...finally it was my family Doc who RX them to me and not my PDoc!!! Lol Here the PDoc's are not comfortable to even RX benzo meds, they all scare about addiction...but when they RX them and you got addicted, they write in your medical folder that you are a benzo addict and almost put on your face a sticker saying that you are a drug addict!!!
Well that's life, I'm waiting to see a new PDoc, will hope it will be before the next 6 months... My anxiety is quite powerful for now, also dealing with fibromyalgia and cfs apparently, pots and dysautonomia... Most of the time I'm almost bedbound, all my muscles hurt and burn, I'm exhausted all the time and just watch tv or take a shower will put me in an horrible state feeling like I will die, I feel so weak... And even if I feel exhausted, I can't sleep a good night of sleep, will sleep 4 hours maximum in a row and its when I take from 3.5 mg to 7.5 mg of remeron, and need to nap often at day time, if I skip the napping, I will feel a lot more horrible, muscles pain will be worse and I will not sleep better the next night...
I do hope the new PDoc will find more appropriate meds to keep my anxiety under control... I know that a pill can't fix all my problems, but at least it can help me to make some progress on therapy, help me to be able to get out of the house again, drive my car again, feel normal when I'm at home alone or out of the house insisted of feeling like I will die all the time...
Well I hope that you feel good, it was nice to read your answer -:) Have a nice day!!!
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