Posted by Scars R. Stories on April 25, 2013, at 10:42:19
In reply to Re: What drug X did to me and why it's evil., posted by Paulbwell on August 28, 2005, at 21:51:17
> > > > I regret responding to this thread. It's bound to end badly.
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> > > > ~Ed
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> > yeah, maximus.. has a point... first, I shouldn't use "projecting"... but you did suggest I was "bitter" and inquired if I was "unhappy."
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> > Also, I am sympathetic with the fact that Maximus might not feel defended by my remarks, but he seems more ressilient to them than you are, and they were directed at him... I thought it posed an important question, and, well, it really didn't say anything but that.
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> > It was far from condensending, and nothing out of bounds for a therapist to pose. I hope you maintain a suitable environment for yourself... whether the drugs are "working" or not, I've never known of any that do so more than 1/2 way.
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> > The rest happens with therapy, exercise, friends, love, and everything else modernity dismisses as hopeless pursuits. (A self-fulfilling prophecy, based on my own experiences).
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> > Ah, if drugs didn't go just half-way, would there be any meaning to my remission?
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> I know you took Desoxyn~50mgs? ( Medical Methamphetamine) did that help to ruin things?
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> Cheers
Sigh. After trying over 40 medications in different combinations to treat Bipolar Disorder over the past 10 years, I find certain "beefs" people have with certain "taboo" meds to be preposterous."Medical Methamphetamine" (well, not quite, one tiny fraction of the contents of dextroamphetamine-based medications, such as Desoxyn and Adderall is chemically identical to methamphetamine) is a ridiculous misnomer that has been borrowed inappropriately from the criminal justice system. If you are caught selling your prescription for one of these drugs, you can be charged with selling methamphetamine. You know, like if you have 20 prior drug charges and a trailer in Fresno.
Amphetamines (Central Nervous System Stimulants) have been used for various medical purposes, including so that military servicemen and women can stay awake for long hours, and children can concentrate better in classroom environments than they may otherwise. PAY ATTENTION HERE - I am not saying that it is OPTIMAL for us to be popping amphetamines as part of our daily regime. I am saying that this MEDICATION, like any other MED, functions to serve a certain purpose in our society. At the moment, our world is moving at a faster-than-human pace, and we are forced to adapt or fall behind.
At least we have some long-term data indicating that amphetamine's long-term side-effects (not METH's, but pharmaceutical CNS stimulant amphetamines) are not so dire.
What offends me most about this post, however, is the suggestion that taking Desoxyn may "ruin someone's life". I am assuming that this either refers to:
1) horrible withdrawal, or
2) a spiral downwards into illegal hard drug useNeither of these propositions are logical in the least. I have been there, and withdrawal from Desoxyn or Adderall are a walk in the park compared with withdrawal from SSRI/SNRI antidepressants! I'd rather be sleepy and headachy for a week than feel like shocks are running from my brain to my toes for months on end, personally. I compare my experiences with SSRI/SNRI withdrawal with heroin or opiate painkiller withdrawal. Not because they are similar, but because SSRI/SNRI withdrawal is SO MUCH WORSE. Desoxyn? What?
There is absolutely no link between the use of medical amphetamines (i.e. NOT "medical METHamphetamines") and drug use or crime. In fact, using these FDA approved substances to cope with today's fast-paced world - for students, execs, doctors, bus drivers, and others - is actually a way of preventing at-risk people in these careers from turning to any kind of illegal alternative!
medical methamphetamine...created by Adolf Hitler, right? :p
peace,
scars
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