Posted by larryhoover on January 6, 2013, at 22:24:10
In reply to Lou's reply-dhawehyjizofpsyn » larryhoover, posted by Lou Pilder on January 6, 2013, at 21:32:14
> > > Last year alone, 42,000 people died from psychotropic drugs by one means or another.
> >
> > No, Lou, they did not. And I put you at strict proof of that. If you cannot verify this assertion, supported by an internationally accepted source (e.g. WHO, FDA), then you must immediately cease and desist from posting these absurd factoids. And it has nothing to do with your religious beliefs. It is solely about your lack of verification.
> >
> > Lar
> > (professional scientist, specializing in environmental toxicology)
>
> Larry,
> Here is an article that cites the 42000 that died last year as a result of psychiaric drugs.
> If you want verification of that number, you could write the cdc or fda and there are other cites that have this same undisputed number. And btw, I consider the number to be an understatement and that 100 times that many died, because the 42000 is representing those deaths {reported} and there could be 100 times that unreported.
> Lou
> To see this article:
> A. Go to Google
> B. Type in:
> [Dr. Mercola, psychiatric drugs,42000 died]
> there is a pic of him...posted on March 7 2011Lou, this is an unreferenced internet article, not a reference of the quality I sought from you. Mercola is a quack, and he proves it by hopelessly confounding his own definitions. He talks about the number of antidepressant prescriptions, and then goes on to assert that a certain number of deaths were attributable to psych drugs. Clearly, those are not the same thing. But, even if all of the deaths were attributable to obtaining an antidepressant prescription, the death rate amounts to 18.26 per 100,000. As the death rate in the U.S. was most recently set at 794/100,000, your statistics would clearly indicate that antidepressants were protective against mortality.
Another set of statistics suggested that 27,000,000 Americans were exposed to antidepressants. Again, applying the purported psych drug mortality entirely to this class of meds, that gives a mortality rate of 643/100,000, once again substantially below the all-cause mortality rate.
Surely, you know that depression is itself a fatal disease, so this is an inherent confound. But, the evidence you have provided demonstrates a protective effect based on antidepressant exposure. And exposure is not synonymous with causality, as Scott has pointed out. In any case, you are obviously full of {redacted, but a slang term for cattle diarrhea}.
Please provide proper evidence of your assertions, or STFU.
Lar
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