Posted by Lou Pilder on October 28, 2012, at 21:55:10
In reply to Re: Lou's reply- » Lou Pilder, posted by schleprock on October 28, 2012, at 17:09:01
> > > I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I'd really like to know.
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> > > Is the Rider God? Did he charge you with a mission directly to Babble, or did you take that mission on yourself? Did the Rider give you specific instructions? Does he have ongoing conversations with you about your progress here? How do you understand on a day by day basis how he feels about your posts? Does he tell you how to interpret Babblers' posts, or is that your own interpretation?
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> > > Do you understand your mission to be to save Babblers from the shackles of addiction to psych meds? Or do you consider it to be to save them from the Lake of Fire? Does addiction put one in the Lake of Fire? Wouldn't the Lake of Fire be reserved for the truly wicked?
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> > > I could be mistaken. It's been a while since you spoke of your vision. Are Babblers concerned with the lake of fire at all? And wasn't there a boneyard beyond the lake of fire?
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> > D,
> > Is this the post?
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20111110/msgs/1002289.html
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> Lou, why do you purport to have had revelations based on the foundations of Judaism when these revelations borrow so much from Christianity?
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> 1. Lake of fire: borrowed by Christians from Greek conceptions of Hades. Traditional Judaism during and before Jesus time had a very vague at best belief in a neutral afterlife (if at all) that shared no imagery with current beleiefs of heaven and hell. (See Sheol)
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> 2. Rider on white horse: no idea if the imagery is used in the Old Testament, could be referring to either death (pale horse) or maybe Christ as described in the book of revelations.
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> 3. Son of Man: certainly a Christian phrase (reference to Christ). Might be found in the Old Testament, but probably bears little relevance to Jews today.
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> 4. House of Lost Sheep: definite reference taken from the new testament, possibly verbatim. Very close relation to the parable of the prodigal son.
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> 5. Flesh\Spirit dichotomy: not very prominant in the Old Testament. Something that was really more developed in Greece. Again, not very relevant in a culture with a very vague and underdeveloped eschatology.
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> 6. Resurrection: Absolutely not a core Jewish belief. The only case of resurrection to occur in the Old Testament were Job's sons. This concept is essentially what made Christianity what it is, and what sharply divided it from Judaism.
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> 7. Heaven: see number 6.
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> Lou, I don't know whether these are intended as metaphors or anything, but they certainly don't evoke the foundations of Judaism. Have you considered the possibility that these revelations were intended to motivate you to convert to Christianity in addition to starting your ministry? Maybe you know this deep down inside and it's causing you to project all this antisemitism on this forum, beacuse you're really scared of abandoning your Judaism. But Lou, you don't really come across as "semetic."schleprock,
You wrote a lot here that I would like to answer. But first, I need to know what you want to mean concerning,[...project all this antisemitism...]
What I am trying to do is stop Mr Hsiung from allowing statements that could arouse antisemitic feelings from being allowed to stand. You see, what I could say to lead people to be free from depression and addiction depends on stopping the encouragment of antisemitism that happens when antisemitic statements here are allowed to stand. This is because Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence and that one match could start a forest fire. This means that there is the potential for statements that could arouse antisemitic feelings that are allowed to stand to lead peole to think that antisemitism is supportive here and since Mr Hsiung states that he does what in his thinking will be good for this community as a whole, people could think to collaborate with him and post more antisemitism and hatred toward the Jews and then I could become a victim of antisemitic violence as well as myself not being allowed to share my perspective here, leavng only what Mr Hsiung will allow others here to know. So the antisemitic statements, unless sanctioned here, essentually prevent me from offering a way that could free people from addiction and depression from my perspective, which is from a Jewish perspective.
So is what you posted what you wanted to post?
Lou
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URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20121018/msgs/1030142.html