Posted by Vincent_QC on October 22, 2012, at 10:38:13
In reply to Re: Propranolol, anxiety and many other subjects..., posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 21, 2012, at 23:44:22
> Have you tried mirtazapine?
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> It isnt an SSRI, has powerful effects against anxiety and panic, and is well tolorated apart from initial drowsiness.
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> Re the constipation, have you tired an enema solution? That might be easier that using a handfull of glycerin suppositories three times a dayHi Jono,
Of course I tried the Remeron (mirtazapine) , before I was hit by that severe anxiety (only had social phobia and once in a while a panic attack in specific situation like public speech) and was hit by that bad anxiety in 2010, everything start after the surgery for the hemmorhoids, like the pain trigger the fear of having a bowel movement and the increase heart rate from the pain when I was able to pass stools was a nightmare, seem like thats what trigger the severe anxiety I have right now.Anyway, before 2010, I used the mirtazapine often in a combo with some SSRI's and alone. I never find it usefull for the anxiety, effective for the insomnia but need to drink the whole pot of coffee to feel awake at daytime...even at 60 mg a day...now I stop drinking coffee since more than 3 years...no chocolate also...
Now I use 3 mg of mirtazapine for the insomnia. It worked for some months but stop working...of course I tried to up the dosage slowly on severals occasions since 2010 but too much (more than 7.5mg) lead to panic and very bad headache (worse than usual). The mirtazapine is not good cause the alpha 2 effect lead to high NE level in the brain who lead to anxiety if you are sensible to the NE effect, you seem to be my problem right now. Also using it release the NE in the brain with no limit, I mean a SRNI will control thes release of NE, downregulate it, but the mirtazapine will keep the NE release on all the time who is not good at all...for me of course...everyone is different...
For the enema, my Gastro Doc suggest that I try using warm water with mild soap, I tried it with no luck...try only the warm water and still nothing, only the water returning into the toilet...
The Doc who follow me for the Gastric by pass suggest an enema made of warm milk with molasse...he said it was used a long time ago at the hospital... I should try it tonight and see what happen...
One thing I find out is that my constipation and intestine pain are linked a lot to the heart rate and anxiety... when im able to pass a large stool, I feel releive and have less heart issues...if I use a lot of glycerin suppositories and nothing want to move, the pain from the rectum and the straining and the intestine pain will make my heart race...so I see a strong connection between those problems...
Took my 10mg of propranolol this morning, blood pressure is at 110/65 2 hours after and the pulse rate sit is 92 and standing around 135...I still took my shower and get dress but my heart rate dont want to decrease like it does usually...so just took another 5mg of propranolol and wait to see what happen...but this morning I wasnt able to pass stoools and have pain in the intestine and my rectum hurt...so thats why I talk about the connection between those events...
Thanks a lot for your answer, have a good day -;)
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