Posted by Lou Pilder on August 25, 2012, at 8:57:43
In reply to Lou's response- » g_g_g_unit, posted by Lou Pilder on August 25, 2012, at 8:04:02
> > I'm in hell. I'd forgotten how bad MAOI withdrawal (Parnate) is. I tapered down 10mg every 3 days from 60mg. Took last dose a week ago. Since then, I've felt totally wired, depersonalized, suicidal, agitated, sick (flu-like symptoms) and, worst of all, cannot sleep properly.
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> > I was taking 1.5mg of Klonopin at night while on Parnate but it didn't do anything for sleep or anxiety anyway (and felt depressogenic) so I cut back to 1.25mg as well, but I don't feel like that's particularly contributing to my symptoms.
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> > Anyway, I have a masochistic streak, so tend to just push through this kind of stuff rather than bridge/complicate things with more Rx's. Waiting for p-doc to return from vacation and start Memantine on September 7th.
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> > Taurine is helping the daytime anxiety. Just wish I could sleep. If I add 5mg of Valium to the Klonopin, I'm set, which my p-doc said to continue with, but isn't withdrawing from two benzos (at whatever point in the future) kinda asking for trouble (not to mention the conflicting half-lives, etc.)?
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> g_g_g
> You wrote,[...I'm in hell...withdrawal...suicidal...worst of all...withdrawaling from..benzos..asking for trouble...].
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> g_g_g,
Now let us reason together. You write that you are in hell. And you write that you take mind-altering addictive drugs. Now I ask, could the hell be a result of the drugs within you?
Now what if others here post to you to take this drug or that drug or more of this or less than that or try to analyze what you have been taking and then tell you to whatever. Now if you have had these drugs prescribed to you by a psychiatrist/doctor, then could not any suggestion to either add or subtract a drug be suggesting that your psychiatrist/doctor is either negligent or incompetant or something else?
You see, I know what these drugs consist of. Many of them have a common denominator of a chemical that is either a synthetic substance that a plant has, or something made from coal-tar or petroleum or substances derived from benzene, amomia or fluoride or other chemicals derived from similar molecular composition. So what I am getting at is that one drug may have a different name than another, but have the same chemical constituants modified in some way. With knowing this, one drug added could be just a new name for an old drug modified and thearfore could have catastophic consequences as that one could still be taking the old drug and be more intensified because it could continue any insult to your nervous system or other organs.
So if you have poeple post to you here that "worked" for them, be advised that the party line here is that if it worked for them it does not have to work for you. And also, what caused the "work"? It could have been a placebo effect or something that happened unrelated to the taking the drug and was coincedence.
Now also, what is the rule and what is the exception? You see, if someone tells you that they are not addicted to benzodiazepines after years and years, they could be the exception, not the rule. And whatever people post here could be anecdotal ,which could be hearsay.
Now I could post here what IMHHHO could save your life. However, Mr Hsiung has posted prohibitions to me that prevent me from doing so. These prohibitions center around the posting of historical facts and the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me, which IMHO if I was allowed to post those , you could be freed from the hell that you decribe. It would come fromn a Jewish perspective as revealed to me which Mr Hsiung has posted a prohibition to me so that I can not post here that.
But be advised, I think that I know how you got in hell. And be advised, that you are being called to (redacted by respondent) a greater life, a life of peace drawn away from the horrors that mind-altering drugs have afflicted upon you, if you agree that your hell is from the drugs. And be advised that one day you could wake up in torment and be compelled to kill yourself and/or others because a psychiatrist gave you the drugs that you list here and now you are waiting for him/her to return and start you on another drug.
Now you say you are in hell. I knew of a person (and I know this is anecdotal but I need to post it here), that was in the same situation that you are in, in hell from withdrawal, but not from parnate as you write here. What happened is that I found out of his suicide and the night before that, I saw him and he said to me, "My drug, my drug, why have you forsaken me."
Lou
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