Posted by Lou Pilder on June 11, 2012, at 20:36:44
In reply to Re: What's The Purpose? » SLS, posted by Phil on June 7, 2012, at 11:53:14
> Is the bottom line regarding developmental PTSD-depression that it eventually becomes free-running through the induction of persistent biological changes, and is no longer dependent upon psychosocial stress in order to manifest?
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> Yes!!! Long post again......longest post I've ever written here. :)
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> Scott, have you ever noticed a lot of similarities in our journey?
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> My mom got sober when I was 22. I was her biggest supporter and we were very close. But before that, like when I went to college for a year in a half, if I was having a great time with friends I'd flashback to what my mother was surely going through. I'd get depressed. For much of my life I felt that her happiness was my job. My focus was her not me. When I started therapy in my late 20s I found out how totally skewed my thinking was. The therapist promptly summoned a psychiatrist. The journey began.
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> I'll tell you one story of many that have by and large have made me look to anything except Christianity. A lady spoke one night. Her mother and father were missionaries, spreading the word of the Christian God. I have no problem with that. But, while they were doing God's work, they put her and her brother in the States care, foster homes, whatever. She was so f*cked up, angry, confused, and totally alone in her experience. If I ever met her parents, they should pray that I don't have a baseball bat. I was goddamned angry.
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> I'm technically a Christian. In my mid thirties I read CS Lewis' book Mere Christianity(a great book to read just to see his genius). I was having a hard time. Started going to a big, conservative Southern Baptist church. They were televised and I really liked the preacher...good guy. I got Baptized. Me grandmother would have been proud. I lasted about a year before I realized that the huge majority of people in church are not there for any intrinsic purpose. They just go to church cause that's what they do. For some, it's to show off their wardrobe. Many go for business connections.
> I'm not the one who said this, CS Lewis did. I was truly there to learn and I did meet a handful of people that were on the same journey.
> Maybe because of a mood shift coupled with my observations I got out.
> The God of the Bible is a caricature and quite evil(Job). Still I love some passages in the King James version of the Bible. If I ever darken another church door it will be one of the many liberal church's here in Austin. But again, my God is inside of me and I find him in fellow sufferers.
> Personally, I have big problems with the church's view on homosexuality. Where I come from we're all God's children. I have many gay and lesbian friends who are open and good. Not like priests of the most dysfunctional church in the world, Catholic. When priests molest young boys and the church just sends them to another parish to take the heat off. All of it is hush-hush with policies coming straight from the Vatican.
> Adam and Eve, a garden, a talking snake, an apple and a rib started the human race? Do I look stupid to you?
> Virgin birth? If your young neighbor got pregnant and told you she was a virgin and that God made this happen. Would anyone today believe that? Well, today is no different from a few thousand years ago.
> Can a God demand your praise and has a love for you that is incomprehensible turn around and send you to burn in hell for eternity for breaking one of his ten rules?
> I think that there is some kind of God above the dysfunctional one the Bible portrays. A God above God. But. it's none of the BS about being made in man's image and answers a trillion of prayers a day.
> Couple of other things. Jews go to hell because they don't buy the fairy tale. No matter how many good deeds I do in my life, if I don't acknowledge that Jesus is the son of God, I'm going south too.
> Lastly, whatever God you worship, if it makes you happy and fulfilled, I honestly am happy for you.
> But for church's big and small asking for money that you were taxed on to help their tax free status to do things like send missionaries to all corners of the earth, well, you know my view on missionaries. Phew!Friends,
It is written here,[...Adam and Eve, a garden, a talking snake, an apple and a rib started the human race. Do I look xxx to you?...].
Now I agree that the book that those topics appear in that the Jews use in their scriptures, could cause one to doubt it's content. For one, there are symbols in the book, which is called Genesis. Then there is allagory and other literary devices. But the book can be understood when the other books that the Jews use in their scriptures are known and understood.
Now the book is connected to most of the other books, for the word genesis means origin. And in the biginning there is one great concept that I have been talking about here. A concept that I think could mark the difference of your being alive or dead. A concept that could change and renew your mind, a concept that could flood your heart with truth that could set those in bondage free. A concept that could give healing and Eternal Life. A concept that could give you a way to escape the wrath that you may find one day and give you the power to overcome, to overcome the world, to overcome death.
You see, my friends,the book describes the biginning as in darkness, without life. And then it is said, "Let there be light". And the light appeard as a sun in the day, the day star. This light dispelled the darkness and life then came upon the earth.
And if we are in darkness and death, we can be made alive by the light, the light of a different sun, a sun that shines in the heart of man and brings life to the soul, the Sun of righteousness with healing in his wings.
Lou
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