Posted by SLS on March 27, 2012, at 8:12:23
In reply to Re: new pdoc says there 'are no answers', posted by zazenducke on March 27, 2012, at 6:45:50
> > > Scott if you change the definition of MDD then the studies don't prove anything either way.
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> > Are you saying that *I* have changed the definition of MDD?
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> > - Scott
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> Are you saying that?Absolutely not. It does take a bit of reading to come to understand the various faces that the one ubiquitous word "depression" describes. Severe MDD includes the symptom clusters that I outlined in my previous post. There are psychological, behavioral, and biological fingerprints that aid in its accurate diagnosis and effect treatment. I posted something a little further down on the board presenting a synopsis of MDD. You will find words like "psychomotor retardation" in there.
http://www.minddisorders.com/Kau-Nu/Major-depressive-disorder.html
"Psychomotor retardation (slowed thinking, speech, body movements) or agitation (inability to sit still, hand-wringing,"
"Problems with clear thinking, concentration, and decision-making. "
These are considered vegetative symptoms.
> Or are you saying participants in study were misdiagnosed?
Yup.
> Then the researchers were incompetent who cares about the results?Yup.
> Or are you saying the study was not done on people who were diagnosed with MDD? Then why are we trying to make it relevant?
I think it is also important to see if antidepressant drugs are helpful for people who report feeling depressed, but who don't suffer from MDD or BD. Studies that disallow severe cases of depression so that dysthymia and other cases of mild to moderate depression be studied are valuable. These people are no less ill. What about complicated bereavement? BPD? Depressive thought style? Situational? Psychodynamically challenged? Etc.
> Or would you like to talk about the weather? I would ! Nice seeing you again!
:-)
You are a wealth of intelligence and creativity. I don't always understand your motivations, but it is sure a challenge for me to "get it". I would probably lose a game of chess with you, whether it be on a chess board or a forum for debate. You are tough.
- ScottSome see things as they are and ask why.
I dream of things that never were and ask why not.- George Bernard Shaw
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