Posted by larryhoover on January 15, 2012, at 14:17:08
In reply to Lou's response-esesarihz » bleauberry, posted by Lou Pilder on January 15, 2012, at 12:38:56
Lou, you seem not to be able to determine what is credible evidence. Let me begin by looking at a website you earlier asked people to Google, using the phrase: "Dangers and health problems from the drug fluoride".
First off, the page that loads is just some person's website. There is no evidence that the person posting there has any special expertise. So, your own reference to it is hearsay. This person posts a letter supposedly sourced from another website, but the link is dead. So that makes it hearsay about hearsay. The supposed letter copied there (wow, it's in quotation marks, it must be real) is alleged from some guy that nobody has ever heard of, but he must be credible because he's a chemist? We're now at three levels of hearsay. You following me, Lou?
But this person, supposedly writing in 1954, relies on something he was told by some other guy. So that's now four levels of hearsay. And this German guy's source is supposedly a secret Nazi program or conspiracy. Five levels of hearsay, now, Lou. Where is your critical thinking?
One thing that amazed the world is that the Nazis documented everything. Everything, in incredible detail. This fluoride conspiracy has been kicking around for 57 years (since that alleged letter was written), and there has been no corroboration of any kind?
Lou, all that I have learned from this link is that you are a very credulous thinker.
Now, to today's post. You said:
> There were about 42,000 deaths from taking psychotropic drugs in one way or another last year.Where did you get such a figure, Lou? If you cannot demonstrate solid evidence for such a figure, I'm going to ask that you be banned from the site.
> Here is a post that has a link in it thatcatalogs the suicides and murders and other related crimes and issues related to people that were taking psychotropic drugs while the crime was commited.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20110902/msgs/996161.htmlLou, this site is the worst form of anecdotal garbage I have ever come across. http://ssristories.com/index.html
Finding simple associations between antidepressant use and tragedy is not evidence of causation. People and their lives are far too complex to be reduced to such a simple interpretation.
Lou, I can only conclude that your interests are malevolent, to spread fear.
Psychotropic meds are powerful agents, but they are designed to assist in the treatment of serious disorders. Proper medical management of all psych patients would minimize adverse events, as would ensuring adequate social supports for all patients. A pipe dream, maybe, but blaming the drugs alone ignores a host of other variables that you never ever attempt to address.
Please stop this posting of your propaganda.
Lar
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