Posted by bleauberry on January 5, 2012, at 8:50:38
In reply to Low dose modafinil (Provigil) experiences?, posted by Franz on January 3, 2012, at 13:44:15
For what you are interested in gaining, I can think of no better shining star than Rhodiola Rosea. You mentioned ginsengs and such....sorry but I just haven't seen any of these highly touted herbs dramatically help anyone ever. Authors claim they do, but I haven't seen it or heard of it personally. Rhodiola is a different story. The other adaptogens or energy boosters might be good for longterm (6 months minimum) but I do not see them as being very useful for short term. Jitteriness, depression, side effects, fatigue, new symptoms,.....lots of bizarre things can happen with some of these popular herbs. For example in the book Healing Lyme, second only to massage the author says he has seen Siberian Ginseng being the next best thing for depression and energy. But it has to be the strong version of the tincture and fairly stout doses....not the pills. Anyway, I gotta tell ya, even small doses of these kinds of things just wreak havoc with me.
Ok, so rhodiola has a lot of good. I would put that at the top of the list.
Modafinil is a fairly safe benign drug, so I wouldn't have any worries about it. Especially at the low doses you mentioned. If it helps you, cool, go with it. Maybe add rhodiola to it for more support and lower modafinil doses.
Another option is Adrafinil, which I personally found more beneficial in terms of depression and energy than modafinil. Adrafinil is the parent drug Modafinil was derived from. I think Adrafinil works better, but slower. When I started it, I got too much jitteriness at first, backed off the dosing and just stuck with it. It soon became invisible....I couldn't feel it doing anythinig, almost like a sugar pill. But a month later it was obvious it had done a lot of good under the surface.
The meds can help motivation and energy, but they can also worsen the situation that created those problems in the first place. They will further tax the liver, and put additional strain on the adrenal glands. That's why I prefer rhodiola, because it has the potential to do what you want and yet at the same time offers an array of other related and unrelated benefits, some of which have to do with correcting the problems related to motivation and energy in the first place.....good for the liver and good for the adrenals, not taxing of either of them.
> Hi, I am interested in using low dose modafinil in the morning to improve motivation or energy to do things.
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> I tried 100 mg and 50 mg. Sometimes it works but not always.
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> Today is the second day on 50 mg. I was feeling very bad until I eat some cake. Maybe stimulants require glucose?. I take coffee for breakfast and did not eat immediately, maybe a mistake.
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> I am scared about the side effects of modafinil I read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil#Side_effects
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> Maybe something like guaranį or ginseng is safer.
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> I take low dose alprazolam at night.
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