Posted by pedr on May 16, 2011, at 12:34:54
In reply to Are certain tap beers safe with MAOIs?, posted by jms600 on May 15, 2011, at 16:00:14
> I recently came across this study on the net -
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> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8151003
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> - which investigated hypertensive episodes associated with tap beer amongst people taking phenelzine. The study looked at 49 different bottled beers and 49 different tap beers.
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> It reported that of the 98 beers tested, only 4 were found to have dangerously high levels of tyramine - all of which were tap beers which were brewed using the bottom fermentation process, in other words, 'lager' type beers.
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> Would that mean that top fermented beers such as ale is safer - even when it's on tap?
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> I do want to try phenelzine as all else seems to have failed for my depression, GAD and panic disorder. Trouble is I don't want to give up alcohol - especially tap beers. I'm happy to cut down but I don't really want to give them up completely as it's one of the few pleasures I have left in life. I live in the UK and a hobby of mine is going to old pubs and trying different ales. I desperately hope I won't have to give that up.
>Hi,
I totally feel for you! I posted this study a while back on this board. I'm on Nardil and used to sneak a draft Brooklyn Lager (the local brew) now and then, sometimes even 2 in one evening (BTW Brooklyn Lager is quite dark and ale-y for a "lager"). This all changed after my last visit to London (I am an expat) when I had one pint of Cronie 1664 and before I had finished it a full-on hypertensive crisis started. It was the 2nd most painful experience of my life (the other waking post-op with inadequate morphine) and sh!t-scary. I ended up in ER for 5 hours.It transpires that there were some fava beans in my dinner that night but I ate at most 2 or 3 beans since I have IBS and beans = pain. They could have been a contributing factor but the Cronie was the catalyst for sure.
> Would that mean that top fermented beers such as ale is safer - even when it's on tap?
- that would seem logical and fits my experience.> I do want to try phenelzine as all else seems to have failed for my depression, GAD and panic disorder. Trouble is I don't want to give up alcohol - especially tap beers. I'm happy to cut down but I don't really want to give them up completely as it's one of the few pleasures I have left in life. I live in the UK and a hobby of mine is going to old pubs and trying different ales. I desperately hope I won't have to give that up.
- I think you're looking at it the wrong way round. If Nardil works, you will gladly forgo draft since you will be significantly better. I miss draft beer, playing footy and hate looking pregnant but it sure as hell beats how bad my OCD and depression was beforehand. Such is life I'm afraid. Besides, these days, more and more ales are appearing in bottles, no? They are over here anyway. Also, I don't know about you but more than 2 drinks and I feel more depressed the next day or two.HTH and good luck,
pedr
Treatment Resistant depression, anxiety, OCD: 13 years
IBS-C & GERD: 8 years
Current meds: 90mg Nardil, 300mg Zantac, 20mg Prilosec
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