Posted by SLS on April 21, 2011, at 6:16:17
In reply to Re: the only way out, posted by huxley on April 21, 2011, at 0:48:49
> > Since you brought up this issue, I think it would be appropriate for you to attend to it yourself. I look forward to your contributions. Your list of unwanted effects should be specific for Abilify, since it is this drug that I chose to speak about. Citations are welcome.
> Scott, seing as you are playing internet Psychiatrist and making recomendations on what drugs people should take I think it is only right for you to also tell them the risks and side effects.
The burden of proof is on you, which is good because your arguments should be easy to make. Antipsychotics carry a burden of side effects, even irreversible and deadly ones. Statistics? You neglect this essential set of facts.
Remember aripiprazole (Abilify)? I asked you to list adverse effects specific to this drug. Please don't avoid my questions as I will try not to avoid yours.
In the medical literature contained on Medline, I found quite a few abstracts demonstrating that aripiprazole *reduces* the severity of tardive dyskinesia produced by other drugs. Reports of aripiprazole-induced tardive-dyskinesia are very, very rare, presumably because this drug is selective for limbic circuits rather than striatal circuits. I'll let you explain the importance of this salient biological observation. Yes. I'm giving you homework, which is something you should have done before making your proclamations and antagonizing me.
Speaking of which, of all the people on Psycho-Babble giving treatment recommendations, what makes me different that you should single me out. I find this amusing. I guess I should really be flattered, though.
Over the years, I have evaluated and reevaluated what I felt were the risks versus benefits of the various antipsychotics. I now favor their use for a variety of conditions, including some subtypes of depression.
> Things like Tardive dyskinesia should be included. Also the fact that there is an offical warning for abilfy that it may make people more depressed and suicidal.It "may"? Black Box labels often contains warnings that are global to a drug category, rather than specific to the drug containing them. So now you have the burden of producing statistics for aripiprazole.
We are not talking about acne? I guess you don't think people should be allowed to use any and every tool available just because the incidence of adverse events is higher for APs than it is for doxycyline? Cancer therapies are not innocuous by design. Are you to judge people suffering from mental illness and their treatment decisions to use APs or other drugs with undesirable side effects as being less eligible for relief from drug treatment than cancer patients?
It seems that you ignore the ability for people posting on Psycho-Babble to make well informed and deliberated treatment decisions; the first step being to ask questions. Who shall answer them? Their doctors? It is ironic that you should not give credit to doctors and their decision making processes in favor of your own. I do not think this to be valid advice. So, stop playing medical critic and continue to educate yourself. I will continue to educate myself as well.
Be careful.
- Scott
Some see things as they are and ask why.
I dream of things that never were and ask why not.
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