Posted by pedr on October 11, 2010, at 12:30:15
In reply to Re: Zelnorm + Nardil = Hypertensive episode?, posted by emmanuel98 on October 10, 2010, at 20:06:04
>>> Deli meats are fine except for aged meats like salami. Also old or rotting meats must be avoided, but they should be avoided anyway, for lots of reasons. Alcohol is okay, especially white wine, if used in moderation.
with all due respect, what is the purpose of regurgitating this summary? Did you not see all the links that were posted? Also, how do you know how long deli meat has been on display? You can't. If it's been out for 2-3 days and not appropriately refrigerated, it could have high levels of tyramine. For this reason I only buy sealed deli meats from decent stores.
>>> Beers are dangerous, especially drafts.
Not true. Bottled beer is not dangerous. Please read the bucketload of links I posted.
>>> I don't think it was the zelnorm but the draft. The reason drafts are more dangerous than bottled beer is that the tubes aren't always cleaned and this causes a build-up of tyramine. So you can have a draft in one place and be fine and then go to another pub and have a problem.
Again, that does not explain my second reaction to a sole bottle of Heineken.
>>> By the way, if you went to a hospital in the US, they would do the same thing. Keep you in the ER, monitor BP, watch for signs of stroke or dangerous BP levels, then send you home. It's just that I'd rather hang around the ER for a few hours than hang around at home if I had a severe occipital headache (back of head).
I see. Would they have some pain management solutions though? I was in absolute agony and they just idly chatted with my drunk friends for 20 minutes before I thought to ask! Even then all they could give was a gas that is administered to women in labour. All it did was make me nauseous as well as in agony lol.
>>> Like Maxine, I have cheese sometimes in small amounts. I am careful though and don't want to push the envelope. My p-doc told me that these food restrictions are tendencies, not certainties. If the were certainties (pepperoni cheese and chianti = death) no one would ever precribe an MAOI.
Agreed. I think as humans we occasionally give in to temptation and even part of us wants to see for ourselves what our limit is. I've learnt my lesson, that's for sure. Even though I didn't die (unless this is all a dream, like Dallas...) the sheer pain is enough to put me off draught beer forever.
Pete
Treatment Resistant depression, anxiety, OCD: 13 years
IBS-C & GERD: 8 years
Current meds: 90mg Nardil, 300mg Zantac, 20mg Prilosec
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