Posted by bleauberry on September 10, 2010, at 16:15:07
In reply to sad and frustrated, posted by Maxime on September 10, 2010, at 12:33:00
Sometimes I think the pills make us sicker than we would be without them. Sometimes. Because they keep us in a closed world where we have no ambition to explore anything other than psych drugs. Well, not the meds themselves, but the whole idea of succumbing to a "psychiatric disorder", which effectively blocks out any further investigation. Complete healing might be right next door in open minded GPs office, but we'll never find it as long we are only focused on the psychiatrist. Depression is cured or helped by a whole lot of other meds besides psych drugs. I say that with absolute certainty from personal experience and those of hundreds of others.
You mentioned adrenal fatigue. Bingo. If that were the case, you would definitely feel like crap and there would be very few if any psych drugs that would help, many would make it worse. Unlike many things, it is easy to test. You need four samples...either blood or saliva...spread out evenly in a 24 hour period. You want a view of the entire 24 hour period, not just a random one-time snapshot.
But then, adrenal fatigue doesn't just happen. It has a cause. Drugs, psych meds, chronic undiagnosed or undiagnosable infections (fungal, bacterial, or viral), lead and mercury, the typical American diet, too much sugar.
I'm just using adrenal fatigue as an example....the point is, yeah, something is wrong, and with your history I doubt the final answer is going to be found in the psychiatrist toolbox. IMO.
Other than the adrenal 4-sample test and a provoked urine challenge test of metals, and complete thyroid panel including antibodies, I would tend to forget testing anything else. Most of the other tests give too many false negatives, or just aren't reliable in telling you anything. They keep people sick. The best thing to do is....try stuff! Diflucan. Doxycycline. DMSA. T3. Forskolin.
Hormones. That's tricky. We can measure what is in the blood at some random time, but we cannot see whether their receptors are blocked or not, or what is actually going on. T3 supplementation competitively displaces anything blocking thyroid receptors. Forskolin competitively displaces adrenal receptor blockage. Despite the best testing, I think there is a fair amount of "try and see" with hormone treatments. My spouse tried a few OTC things and found Dong Quai to be very good at mood balancing and good mood for her. Probably due to the female age. Now imagine her scenario and future if she had instead gone to a psychiatrist?
It's not the disease that makes us sick, it's the "poop and pee"...talking about unsuspected infections. Those are powerful toxins that block thyroid receptors, block adrenal receptors, and contaminate your serotonin and dopamine....so no matter how much you try to increase serotonin or dopamine with meds, it won't matter...it's filthy.
I'm just sayin, open the mind to things that really cause depression. The only real way to find them is through challenge tests and blind guesses....no different than a psychiatrist prescription. At first it sounds overwhelming to someone not up to speed on the stuff, and that's ok, because many doctors are not up to speed either. It really is actually quite simple and follows an easy organized plan that anyone can do. Basically we're trying to rule things in or rule things out by trial and error to see what happens.
Very common example: You start something like Tetracycline or Diflucan. The first or second day you feel better than you've felt in a very long time. By day three you are feeling like death. That whole pattern just told you something....you got a serious infection nobody considered. Forget about testing it or identifying it....you already know what is killing it whatever it is.
"But my doctor already "tested me" for this or that and says I don't have it. Yeah. I could right a whole book on that fallacy. People are basically sentenced to life in prison when that happens. It doesn't have to be that way.
I only go into these things because:
1. They are more common than people suspect.
2. If depression persists despite all the psych meds, then logic says very clearly something else is causing it that psych drugs don't target.
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