Posted by bulldog2 on June 20, 2010, at 7:54:34 [reposted on June 21, 2010, at 18:13:42 | original URL]
In reply to Re: im also rejecting meds... » SLS, posted by bobman on June 19, 2010, at 19:36:08
> > > What Christ empowered says is true and people need to recognise that THERE IS NO CHEMICAL IMBALANCE.
> > > If it was a biological illness then there would be biological evidence.
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> > You may want to do some more reading.
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> > http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=depression brain changes&aq=8&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=depression brain&gs_rfai=Csmb8IQAZTLO0MIK_tge8lqCwCgAAAKoEBU_Q1PH7&fp=610e7dd948e54cca
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> > - Scott
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> What you posted is nonsense. It has been exhaustively shown that there is no causative relation between neurotransmitter levels and mental illness, depression included. The studies I'm referencing are mostly competing studies on AD's, antipsychotics, and anticonvulsants. The information on this subject isn't vague; neurotransmitter variations aren't the cause of mental illness. Drugs of completely opposite mechanisms can cause the same relief of depression. For instance, serotonin re-uptake inhibitors and serotonin antagonists both relieve depression. Glutamate release inhibitors (decrease frequency of NMDAR evoked voltage gated currents), like lamictal, and glycine agonists (increase frequency of NMDAR voltage gated signalling) both show benefits for conditions like OCD.
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You are mixing apples and oranges. Even if there is no correlation between neurotransmitter levels and mental illness does not mean there is no biological basis to mental illness. You act as if neurotransmitter levels are the only way to cause mental illness. There is a field of science called genetics? Have you heard of it. Our physical characteristics which include all body organs and that include the brain are passed via genes. This also includes termperament or personality. Now bare with me we are not talking about chemical imbalance. Keep your young mind on genetics. As one who has raised dogs (high animals) some are born yes born with certain personality traits such as assertiveness, shyness, aggression etc. That is seen also in human beings. Twins who have been separated at birth often have similar personality traits. Yes the brain being an organ is subject to being flawed at birth and people being born with various mental illnesses.You state that there is no biological basis for mental illness. try individuals anadoctal stories. Those who have suffered various mental illness from birth. Those of us who have suffered this know all to well about the biological basis for mental illness. I'm not talking chemical imbalance. We can throw that term out the window.
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