Posted by solosurfer on January 7, 2010, at 5:58:12
Hi.I am new to babble and this is my first post i would love to use my unexpert,though very med experienced knowledge to help others and for other's to maybe help me a little.Ok the title probably grabbed a few of you cos of the word NARDIL lol i know a few people on here are curious about this med and also have alot more knowledge about it.I have scanned this site numerous times looking for clues for help and understanding of this torturess, guinnea pig lifestyle. Enough babble. Im a 29 year old male living in B,bay australia and have been battling with Social anx,major dep and gad in other words without tag's anx and dep basically since i was fifteen but only diagnosed at 23.Since then ive been on around 28 med's one ssri(luvox),two snr'i(cymbalta.efexor) meclobemide,nortryp.to nardil to parnate back to efexor wit lithium back to meclobemide with lithium then back to nardil with lithium to parnate with stelazine then back to cymbalta with lithium to epilem back to nardil with risperdal have also done the awful zyprexa and seroquel but only in small doses then to my current state nardil with lamictal.SORRY BUT THIS MAYBE EXTENSIVE IL LET YOU KNOW NOW AND IF THERE IS ANY QUESTIONS DONT HESITATE TO ASK COS I COULD LEAVE ALOT OUT. Anyway over this 7 year period ive only been med free for the two week washout between switches except for a six week stint where i told all doctors TO LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE lol.So now im currently been on 45mg nardil 30mg morning 15 mg in mid afternoon and 25mg lamictal at night both been taken for 4 month's.This time round the nardil has effected me so much differently this time around i mean completely side effect wise and underlying condition wise.Im wondering if it's cos of the lamictal or some other reason as you know it could be alot of things.Before this nardil trial i was on nardil alone 75mgs for 7 month's and decided to go off due to worsening avoidence and confusion and more emotional symptoms.After being off nardil for two week's i decided i really wanted to clean my system after all this crap for years but only got to one day past two weeks and had a really bad episode so started nardil again with lamictal. The main reason my p,doc insists on nardil is cos my father has been on it for 32 years and it's the only thing that work's for him and he is 100% fine all day every day.Anyway this is what ive experienced this time with nardil.1st day 15 mgs morning sent me more agitated (usually does but not that quick) flushing anxiety which i dont experience that much (i usually just feel wound up irritable inner restlesness, and impulsive) and on third day of 15mgs i felt a little better but very nervy and felt like i was on meth with my usual anx and that stayed like that for a week then up to 30mgs a day split 15mgs AM 15mgsPM. On the second day of 30mgs at lunch i got massive chest pressure like 20 kilo's was sat in my chest and my heart beat pounded and i started sweating profusely while in air coditioning" at first i thought this was a hypertensive reaction but trust me i know what to avoid and i had nothing that day to cause a reaction ( i think it was abost of serotonin). Then that night felt a bit better. The next day (still only 30mgs) around lunch i went really stimulated like i was anxiosly shot with speed could not stop but also no focus or direction (not mania or hypomania i dont think) still anx as hell then bang! full remission kinda then slowly faded after an hour leaving me empty, anx and confused.The next day on 30mgs at lunch massive hit of relaxation wondered what ive been so worried about and didnt care about anything it felt like the euphoria but no drive. That only lasted for 1 hour.My p,doc reckon's it's normal to fluctuate at the beginning which i agree cos it alway's happens with me but not like that.So i decided to wait a few weeks on that dose following such a strong reaction only to go back to normal condition until week 5 when it should be starting to work it sent me to the bin. bad emotional,deep worrying suicidal anx depression that lasted for another four week's with worse hypervigilance.So went to 45mgs and this is where my concern is. Usually when i start nardil i get all the bad symptoms i just described but usually in the first few weeks then maybe a bang then nothing not a bang then worsening depression and also il get postural hypotention on and off but it will fade in like three week's or so but since going to 45mgs 14 weeks ago im experiencing worse hypotension.But the big prob is after 14 week's of 45mgs nardil and 25mgs lamictal i cant wake up i have to hit snooze 8 times then jump up and force myself out of bed and crankily and miserably go to my strenuous building job in the 40 degree aussie sun and then while at work im profusely sweating dont want to eat lost confidence in mty abilities and i cant think for crap im constantly in a mind jamming confusion and its like i cant stop moving like im on amphetamines and then when i get home (before you start to question its not the heat! ive worked in this my whole life and its def my codition or nardil or lamictal causing this) im exausted but still cant stop my muscles are aching i feel like i have fibromyalgia and my mind is like nagative adhd im unresponsive emotionless and when i go to bed i have insomnia with restless legs to the point of jolting akathesia. My p,doc is a tool he just brushes it all away and say's just keep working it will take your mind off it. Im actually looking for anew doc cos this one start's to fall asleep on me i think he is over me and his job. The only reason ive gone back to him is cos he has extensive experience with maoi's and he know's my families history and he is 55 and has a very good rep. apparently no one who was put in his clinic has ever had to stay longer than 3 week's (believe it or not). Im seeing his old colleague who is a clinical pshycoligist who both recomend each other highly but cant stand each other and he reckonds she can fix anything without med's hahahahah have i got a combo of freak's here. Anyway sorry for this scrambled novel my head is a burnt out mess. Any questions or comment's on this go right ahead and il explain and talk with ya about it please dont let this extensive babble deter you i may have lots of answers about nardil for you as you might have for me.see ya.Oh i know a lot of you maybe saying it's your condition go higher like 75 or 90mgs but nardil has never helped except for quick bursts at the start then nothing just worsens worry and burries me.The only remission ive had was after starting luvox with 500 mgs of lithium.Went massively agitated, night akathesia.Then after a week doc put me up to 100mg of luvox. Two days after that i went tired and a little euphoric then another two days i went into remission for about two week's then went agitated, exausted,ruminating,cranky,and very anxious so went higher and got worse. And while i was coming off it started to calm down.The doc's reckon it was too much so we tried again but never got past 50 mg's for 10 weeks cos they wanted to try nardil with lithium.I kinda feel like ive gone past my theraputic dose of nardil or my serotonin on nardil has over riden my dopamine cos it feels just like when i was on a so called too higher dose of luvox with lithium. But then again it all has so much resemblence to burnout or dep. Ahhhh well we will all figure our brain's out one day. Hopefully it's before we fry them lol.
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