Posted by willey on January 2, 2010, at 22:37:09
I dont state it here,but im sure its not a mystery im a big advocate of GHB,if used therputicaly it holds a role in axniety releaif,depression,mainia,pro social,pro sexual,pro heatlh.
I have particpated in a group dedicted to it for longer then i posted here,and all i can say is its a miracle substance for me.
When it was banned as a DATE RAPE drug,and i no longer could even speak about it without people attacking me on it being just that,even when they have no back up to call it toxic,as its brain protective,and blaming a drug for rape is just absurd.
So i just dont speak on it,but with wikipedias new changes,i just want to speak out and say we have been robbed of a fantasticly therputic substance by the same people "protecting us"
GHB,now prescription xyrem is the only drug that holds two scheldues,one that it is a drug of recreation and dangerous,then another that is is a drug that holds some medical benifit.
Well here i will paste two things,first the asnwer to the defense that ghb/xyrem is only semi legal because it helps a specific illness,other then that its a bad drug,lets see if they meant that,take notice they,the company filed guilty,
"In 2007, the makers of Xyrem, Orphan Medical, which is now part of Jazz Pharmaceuticals, pleaded guilty to a felony charge of marketing Xyrem for unapproved uses. These off-label uses included treatments for conditions such as fatigue, pain, and psychiatric disorders.[7]The lawsuit claimed that the manufacturers:
Sponsored events where speakers bombarded the doctors with the message that Xyrem should be used to treat a variety of medical conditions;
Paid unrestricted grants to physicians as a reward or inducement to prescribe Xyrem for off-label purposes;
Targeted physicians who were already prescribing Xyrem for aggressive sales calls to encourage off-label prescriptions;
Paid speaker fees to doctors who promoted the use of Xyrem for off-label purposes, such as insomnia and psychiatric disorders.
For example, one physician had made well over $100,000 in just one year for giving such speeches. The doctor, Peter Gleason, admitted to giving speeches and seminars without following "evidence-based guidelines". It was said that he once claimed "table salt is more dangerous" than Xyrem"
WOW THE DATE RAPE DRUG EH,now second is the money,right money money baby.GHB was insanly cheap costing usualy 50 bucks for a pretty large amount,i mean it was natural and just dident cost much,now lets compare that to the script med,which uses the same chemicals as the supplmental banned versions did,and remeber this is the same people trying to help us here,the people that some patients respect and dont think about doing anything outside of guidlines due to trust in these people,yes the fda folks!"Although GHB can be synthesized easily from inexpensive chemicals, the price for Xyrem is high, and many insurance plans do not cover it. Some insurance plans will cover it on a case-by-case basis, if the patient submits an appeal for coverage. The basis for the appeals would be that this is the only FDA-approved drug in its class that treats this condition. Jazz Pharmaceuticals does not publish a price, but one insurance company reports it at ~$1300/month[9]. The cost varies depending on the dose. The average dose currently costs about $1,700 a month, but this can be significantly higher if a larger dose is required. In the UK the BNF list is priced £360.00 per 180ml (500 mg/mL) (Nov 08) [10]. In the U.S., private insurance can cut the cost to the consumer to just the deductible, but many insurance companies say they do not cover the drug because"
Well feel free to post ur opinions,but im literaly ill reading this,these are the people we trust with our heatlh,i feel much more vindicated now with the way i treat my illness which is in totaly disregard to both them,my doc,and big pharm.
poster:willey
thread:932235
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20091227/msgs/932235.html