Posted by bleauberry on October 12, 2009, at 18:38:45
In reply to suicidal ideation, posted by markwell on October 12, 2009, at 11:22:32
If you are making plans that can never be undone once they are carried out, it is imperative to walk into the emergency room or call and amulance. Let them take it from there. A bad experience in the past does not mean it will duplicate again. Mircales do walk out of the hospital.
I wholeheartedly support the approach of Linkadge. That is, think outside the box, utilize some of the great substances on this planet that have been here for centuries doing great things. The only reason we don't get them prescribed is because no one can patent them and make multimillion dollar corporations out of them.
We don't want to rock the boat, which means keep Paxil where it is for now. It can always be weaned off later. The question now is, what can go with it?
Link mentioned Chasteberry. That wasn't the first to come to my mind, but certainly a decent choice. I would add to the list of easily accessible powerful options:
1. Rhodiola Rosea...can be mixed with SSRIs.
2. SAMe...can be mixed with SSRIs.
3. St Johns Wort with Lemon Balm companion...can be mixed with SSRIs, but the SJW dose below 600mg. The synergy of these two is more than either alone.
4. Albizia Julibrissin.
5. Free and Easy Wanderer.
6. An Shen Buxin.
7. Tyrosine and/or DL-phenylalanine.
For sleep, go to hepapro.com and order Herbsom. And old popular Chinese favorite with two herbs in it that give excellent sleep with no hangover and no addiction.
Fast: SAMe, Rhodiola, tyrosine, Albizia. Results noted within 1 to 10 days.
Herbsom: Results in 20 minutes.
Not wanting to make the list any longer, depression can readily respond to things that would seem to have nothing to do with serotonin or neurotransmitters. Explaining in some cases why ADs just don't work. For example a herbal combo called CirculationP that has 10 fantastic herbs in it that reduce brain inflammation and stimulate microcirculation.
If you are inclined to continue in the narrow path of what the psychiatrists have shown you thus far, then this post will be of no value to you.
There is hope. Hang in there! Do something moving forward. Don't sit on it. Don't hesitate. Make a positive move. You were brave enough and trusting enough to pop that first Paxil pill. Be brave enough and trusting enough to try something new.
With your history, I doubt that will come from the psychiatric toolbox. Too narrow. I would pin hopes on adding Nortriptyline or Abilify to the Paxil, or stopping the Paxil completely and starting Parnate. Other than that, I'm not sure.
I could be wrong. Just sharing my heartfelt thoughts to a friend in need.Link is on the right track, in my opinion, and I just wanted to point out the very best, fastest, safest, cheapest options readily available.
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