Posted by Ron Hill on September 13, 2009, at 17:39:39
In reply to Re: Rhodiola and Parnate, posted by desolationrower on September 13, 2009, at 16:38:09
> The effects of Rhodiola rosea extract on 5-HT level, cell proliferation and quantity of neurons at cerebral hippocampus of depressive rats
> Phytomedicine, Volume 16, Issue 9, Pages 830-838
> Q. Chen, Y. Zeng, Z. Qu, J. Tang, Y. Qin, P. Chung, R. Wong, U. Hägg
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> The purpose of this study was to investigate the effects of Rhodiola rosea extract and depression on the serotonin (5-HT) level, cell proliferation and quantity of neurons at cerebral hippocampus of depressive rats induced by Chronic Mild Stress (CMS). Seventy male Sprague-Dawley rats were divided into seven groups (10 per group): normal control group, untreated depressive rat model group, negative control group, positive control group, low dosage Rhodiola rosea extract (1.5g/kg) group, medium dosage Rhodiola rosea extract (3g/kg) group and high dosage Rhodiola rosea extract (6g/kg) group. After the depressive rats induced by CMS had received Rhodiola rosea extract for 3 weeks, the 5-HT levels at cerebral hippocampus were detected by high performance liquid chromatography. Bromodeoxyuridine (BrdU) was injected in vivo to label the proliferating cells at hippocampus, and morphometry was used to count the hippocampal neurons. The results showed that the 5-HT level of the three experimental groups had recovered to normal status. The immunohistochemistry of hippocampus BrdU positive cells had returned to the normal level in the group of depressive rats with low dosage Rhodiola rosea extract. In conclusion the results demonstrated that Rhodiola rosea extract could improve 5-HT level in hippocampus in depressive rats, and low dosage Rhodiola rosea could induce neural stem cell proliferation at hippocampus to return to normal level, repairing the injured neurons at hippocampus.
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> which actually makes it sound likely to be safe, since it wasn't causing supranormal 5ht levels, so probably a downstream effect. i wouldn't be afraid to try it personally, but i like experimenting on my brain. have a 5ht2 antagonist and benzo on hand though.
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> -d/r
-----------------------------------------------Desolationrower and ColoradoSnowflake,
I COULD NOT DISAGREE MORE WITH THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT!
> which actually makes it sound likely to be safe, since it wasn't causing supranormal 5ht levels, so probably a downstream effect. i wouldn't be afraid to try it personally, but i like experimenting on my brain. have a 5ht2 antagonist and benzo on hand though.
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> -d/r
In the above researh, depression is induced using Chronic Mild Stress (CMS) and Rhodiola rosea is shown to be serotoninergic.Adding a serotoninergic substance to an MAOI can cause serotonin syndrome and, in the worst case, death.
ColoradoSnowflake, PLEASE, please, please, read the following article. If you are going to take an MAOI you must know the rules.
http://www.psy-world.com/1008CNS_Stahl.pdf
-- Ron
dx: Bipolar II with ultra rapid cycling and mild OCPD
600 mg/day Trileptal
200 mg/day Lamictal
500 mg/day Keppra
90 mg/day Nardil
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