Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 10, 2009, at 20:45:26
In reply to Selegiline/Emsam works, then doesn't?, posted by AdamCanada2 on August 8, 2009, at 6:27:17
> -Please if you have the time read my whole post or just the summary that I put at the very bottom. I have been on over 30 meds and this has been the most promising one in a long time but I am fearful-
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> Hello. I am on Selegiline tablets 5mg a day for about 10 days at Noon. For severe treatment resistant depression and strong social anxiety.
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> I also take low dose clonazepam to help with anxiety/mood, and low dose ritalin.
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> When I started it I felt very minor improvement during the first 4 days. I normally have huge burning headaches when very depressed and on Selegiline they would diminish but I would get them a bit fierce during night time. Also during those 4 days I felt a bit weird. As if I was not 100% awake. Not tired mind you, not at all, just.. weird.
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> Day 5... I began to really feel a significant effect. More drive, motivation, sex drive increased, social anxiety falling off a cliff! As well as better ability to think, more energy, and for the first time since last year I have felt the return of things I used to enjoy doing. Photography for one. All the fears of ''not good enough'' diminished. And my anxiety over meeting women largely diminished. Amazing huh?
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> Day 6 and 7 continued to improve and I even made plans to meet up with this incredibly sweet girl later this month. For ''dating''. Last time I did that was ages ago.
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> Day 8-10. Well Day 8 I started to get insomnia. 4 hours of sleep. But good enough for this day as I visited my friend. She was very surprised as to the improvement within me. I was so lively! Day 9 it was harder to sleep. 3 hours I got. I was told I was cranky. And I knew I did not feel as good as Day 8. Day 10... I was unable to get ANY sleep at all. And I felt sick, nausiated, my appearance horrendous, baggy eyes, red eyes, and mood was dreadful. I felt like a walking zombie. I was no fun at all. I also felt idiotic, motivation lost, energy lost. Perhaps all from the severe sleep exhaustion.
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> But when I made it home I managed to finally get 8 hours of sleep. With a few wakings and having to fall asleep again. Strange feeling in my dreams too. ''Depressed'' in my dreams. When I finally got up I still felt very weird, very low mood, and still dreadful but not to the point where I felt like wanting a gun to the head. But... not far from it. My motivation and all the positive things I mentioned from the day 5-7 period were diminished greatly. I even felt that ugh... how on earth can I still meet that girl. I will only dissapoint her. I felt like not doing much of anything... tv no, internet... whatever, videogames no, photography no.
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> Now on day 10 or so after getting about 8 hours sleep last night there has been some improvement. I was even able to talk on the phone with that sweet girl again. And even felt even if I do not feel as I did during those good days that I can still be at some ease while I meet her since she was so understanding. But... I want to know are such ups and downs usual on Selegiline/Emsam? Does the insomnia get better? Is it usual for persistent lower mood for days after a period of extreme exhaustion? Will things likely just get better from here as my body gets used to Selegiline? Is the ritalin perhaps effecting the anti depressant negatively?
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> Any help would be appreciated and feel free to share your own experiences...
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> I felt for those few days... as if my life was almost returning back to normal after 8 long years of occassionally suicidal depression. I hope so much that I can feel what Selegiline did during that time again.
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> ---Summary--- Treatment resistant Depression plus strong social anxiety. Most promising med in ages. Suffering for over 8 years. 5mg. First 4 days almost no improvement, minor. Day 5-7 I began to feel significant effect, return of interests that I have not felt in so long. Actually was happy to be alive! Day 8-10 severe insomnia and lead to such dreadful feeling with so much pain and headache. Even after 8 hour sleep that I finally managed to get I still felt Awful! Now sleeping is bit better and mood little better but no where near how I felt during 5-7 day period. What is likely to happen? Is this common for some? Any advice please.----
Hmm.. There is also dosage increase, but maybe you need to find a way to counteract the selegine insomnia? Low dosage TCA or whatever is an effective sleep med without any signicant side effects. A bit like a parnate combo. Sleep deprivation will drive anyone mad.
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