Posted by morganpmiller on July 2, 2009, at 20:50:34
In reply to Re: ECT - Zeba, posted by Meltingpot on July 2, 2009, at 15:26:03
Umm, I would argue that we all have some kind of psychological issue that contributed to our genetic predisposition developiing into something worse than it may have been minus any psychological issues. Look, we ALL have issues. To say that you do not or that some people with depression do not sounds a whole lot like classic denial to me. Even the majority of psychiatrists most likely adhere to the biopsychosocial dynamic that explains the majority of mental illness.
I'm sorry, none of us were simply born depressed miserable souls. It blows my mind that there are still people out there that do not think their childhood had anything to do with their depression. If you know anything about psychology and how a child's brain/psyche develops, you know that between the ages of 2 to 4 years old are crucial to how a child develops emotionally. Often we think we had this great childhood and great parents. First, there is no way we can remember what was going on when we were 2, 3, and 4. Second, it is common for us to be protective of our parents and put them on a pedestal, even if they made some mistakes. Third, we just don't realize what it takes to raise an emotionally healthy child. There are things that we may think are no big deal, but in reality, they may have been very detrimental to our emotional development. Fourth, there is this wonderfully powerful coping mechanism called denial.
Zeba,
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> So are you saying that somebody who is suffering from depression with daily, hourly, minute by minute suicidal thoughts might benefit from herbal therapies or accupuncture?
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> I know a lot of people on this board think herbal therapies and alternative treatments have a place, maybe they help to kill time whilst the person is waiting for the drug to kick in but to even suggest that they might help as a stand alone therapy is, in my view, dangerous condescending. People waste so much time and money on these things and it makes me so angry.
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> If you think that herbal therapies and accupuncture are helpful as stand alone treatments then to be honest I would not take heed of your opinion on anything. Some people I know who can't get out of bed with their depression would laugh at your suggestion of exercise!
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> I know that talk therapy has helped you and like I said before you obviously had issues that needed to be talked about but many people with depression do NOT have psychological issues that need to be addressed and for them therapy is useless, it's only helps in the sense that it gives a person a chance (once a week) to vent.
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> Denise
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> Denise
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