Posted by 49er on April 25, 2009, at 14:29:38
In reply to Re: Effects of long term SSRI use... My Story..., posted by sowhysosad on April 23, 2009, at 20:54:44
49er - <<I am not sure how you can make the statement about drugs causing brain damage not holding up since 2 to 10% of all adverse side effects are ever reported to the FDA.>>
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so why so said <<Probably a stupid question, but how do they quantify side effects that AREN'T reported to the FDA?>>Actually, it is an excellent question with no good answer. I found this thread on pharmalot, http://tinyurl.com/22elxo which discusses the issue. I think the drug rep, Horus Cat, has the best answer about adverse side effects as it is like pornography, as you know it when you see it.
<<Are there any hard-and-fast statistics relating to "poop-out"? I've taken SSRI's for years at a time and have never experienced anything approaching it.>>
As an FYI, I was sure when I was on psych meds that I had never experienced poopout. It was only when I started tapering off of them that I realized that actually, I was starting to experience it. Many people I have encountered have reported similar experiences.
In browsing sites, the experts say 20%. But there isn't a direct link to a study so I won't post the site.
Since these are the same folks who minimize other stuff, I tend to believe it is much higher. But I don't have any proof either.
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49er <<As far as just dying a few years young, I guess you haven't seen the statistics that patients on psych meds are dying 25 years too early.>>
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so why so sad<< But aren't their a million and one different life-threatening conditions that are associated with depression and anxiety? Heart disease, diabetes, stroke etc.>>In the latest study on women and heart disease, there was a direct link to the antidepressants they were taking. Of course, that was minimized.
Someone I know who was always very healthy prior to being placed on antipsychotics has developed diabetes, high cholesterol and high blood pressure.
And of course, there was the big lawsuits against the companies of the APS for causing health risks. Sorry, due to insomnia, I am being lazy and not looking it up. But do a google search and you'll see what I am talking about.
I know someone who died from a stroke but this person definitely was not depressed.
Logically, one or two conditions can't be responsible for a million things. Even AIDS and cancer don't do that by themselves.
I think pharma would like for people to believe what you wrote but until I see accessible full text studies by researchers who don't have pharma conflicts, I will have a hard time agreeing.
<<There's an interesting, balanced discussion about Glenmullen from some years ago here:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20000411/msgs/29656.html>>;Thanks, I will take a look at that.
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