Posted by kenny6 on March 26, 2009, at 10:19:16
In reply to Re: Klonopin Withdrawal » kenny6, posted by yxibow on March 26, 2009, at 4:40:35
> > I have had the plan in mind to begin to taper off off 2-2.5 mg Teva USA(manufacturer) Clonazepam daily beginning this summer. I have been taking generic barr adderall (mixed amphetamine salts) 20mg b.i.d. for a while and XR before that. I have been on Adderall for around a year, only stopping to give Nardil a spin after at least 7 SSRI's and wellbublah blah did not have any positive effect. I have been on clonazepam daily for over a year, and it can be noted I have been looking for a drug to work before I taper. But, the road has been hard and I want to begin the slow taper now. Keep in mind the manufacturer! Now, what would be the best method of tapering? I want it to be very accurate, and the water titration method sounds accurate (I have not looked much into it.) I doubt teva's clonaepam green tablets are freely soluble in water....any thought? Methods...Solubility...Remedies to make it through in which one has experienced (they are endless, but they're not like Methadone or Suboxone is to Opiates obviously)?
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> Have you discussed this plan with your doctor? Is there a reason? Habituation? Or is it dulling ? Because social anxiety does have some indications for it.Yes. The answer is always taper, taper, taper. And I knew that. Habituation yes. I'm going to Mass College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences very soon and need to be sharp. This may lead one to think its not so debilating, of course. But I need to draw a line before I become more physically dependent. Such as how I did with tobacco. "Tapered" and I'm assuming it was alot easier than if I had continued. Dipped then quit.
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> At any rate the usual plan is 10% per week, more if you can stand it, less if you can't. It will always be there, and there's no point risking any adverse effects.
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> By the way both Barr and Par have orally disintegrating Klonopin. Depends if your insurance approves it or not. But they have it down to 1/8mg wafers. So give or take 8 weeks and it would be a safe taper. Yes, there are faster tapers but that would land you in a clinic and there's no point in it.Don't know if my insurance covers that. I have good insurance though. Thank you for mentioning those.
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> > Psychology is such a new science (and in some fields corrupt) that one can nearly guarantee different diagnoses from different pdocs. That has been my case. Right now, my questionable yet renowned Psychologist says its Social Anxiety Disorder. Although I have somewhat abnormal thinking now, I will admit, it is not the maladaptive described in the booklet. I am working on that though. But more importantly, none of my symptoms (which are primary and disabling) are outlined. They just go under parathesias...The muscles feel weird, more than just muscle movements, in my head. Just strange, indecribable, physical sensations. But one thing I would like all you to keep in mind is...
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> Psychology is not a new science, Freud wasn't all wrong.. its as much an art as a science.. some methods are odd and different than others to the patient. The best methods are the ones that work for the patient. There is no one way in psychodynamics.I meant Pharmacology...I think...I learned all about the "froid" (not a spelling correction, of course) in lots of Psych classes in getting my associates. Its the microbiologies and stuff that suck....Your statement about Freud is right on target.
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> Primary and disabling... ?... parasthesias ?.... I guess I'm curious because I'm biased in the sense that part of my disorder is what could be called somatoform. Do you experience real but unexplained bodily sensations ? Multiple ones ? Ones that you don't have a organic disorder for?Real but unexplained that I do not have an organic disorder for (yeah!!..I guess).
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> > In society, symptoms and signs grant me this name. And Psychologists try to compare it to "timid." I don't know if it depends where in the US you are from, but you might know what it means. Please help, this dysthymia wont stop sliding downwards and my cognitive abilities suffer TREMENDOUSLY. That is actually kind of debilitating in itself as say in court I see a contradiction in what someone says and forget about it, or what they said, seconds later. Either as I follow along, or just zone out.
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> Have your psychiatrist or psychologist ever mentioned psychological testing? It can be a bit expensive -- some insurance will cover for it. Some tests may seem outdated, some have been updated to the present, but interpreted they give a look into things. None of it is a foregone diagnosis, its just a useful tool when people want to be sure things are on the right track.
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> JayI've gotten a Neuropsych in Boston. It's mainly cognitive and the only things that tested for my anxiety were if I made comments such as "I suck" if I got one of their tests wrong. Ex. repeat whatever, whatever, backwards. And the other a 10 question thing with question along the lines of do you get anxious?...uhh...In the writeup it was Anxiety Disorder NOS. I wish all pdocs didn't deny any existence of brain mapping for mental disorders. When they answer like that they literally mean there are none that can test you for ALL malfunctions.....I love science. No homo.
I look forward to hearing/chatting with you guys some more. I promise I'll sound less ignorant. I'm about to go take a nap, its weird being able to sleep on Adderall.
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