Posted by myco on March 17, 2009, at 9:41:17
In reply to Re: To much DA in with total MAO inhibition = low bp?, posted by desolationrower on March 17, 2009, at 3:39:30
My only real noob explaination would be a combination of these (all ive read in the literature):
melatonin causes low bp from what ive read
seroquel causes low bp also
benzo's and benzo-working herbs low bp also
nardil in itself causes low bp
melatonin mixed with benzos causes increased low bp
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then along comes green tea extract...not sure but this is where the ball started to roll so to speak. I think it to may cause (some of the compounds like EGCG) low bp....would be expected since it's good on the heart etc...I suspect all of this sh*t together just combined and was lowering my bp unnoticed (ive read low bp is subtle until you get into trouble) all along then the green tea extract was like the straw that broke the camels back and everything went to hell 1h after that green tea extract kicked in. Thats my noob explaination.
d/r or someone....can you guys give me a more educated opinion on what happened or you think?...i'm formulating a report of my experience with literature refs etc to show my dr....this may actually be enough to open his eyes to a proper benzo type sleep aid and not low doses of wither tripe he prefers to use.
On the side...I improperly mentioned melatonin feeds back into the DA pathway...actually feeds back into TDO and IDO, tryptophan dioxygenase and indolamine deoxygenase, respectively.
Also on the side...I only took temazepam for sleep last night, its still working, but I seem to feel better, not perfect yet still a lil dizzy and pains in chest etc but not nearly as bad as the nights with melatonin and seroquel together for sleep. Hope the temazepam isnt masking anything. I suspect simply eliminating those sleep aids and getting a good sleep inducing benzo will do the trick. ***fingers crossed. I really dont want to have to taper down the nardil then go back up again, ive been side effect free for so long now.
thnks
myco
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> well i really doubt this is a sequela from green tea,,i think its just a slow walking panic attack. about dopamine, i forget exactly, i think peripherally it causes vasodilation and tachycardia? not sure. also MAOIs increase melatonin so you might not be benefiting from supplementing, although what i noticed is that it just seemed less effective with an maoi.
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> -d/r
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