Posted by bleauberry on February 17, 2009, at 18:51:23
In reply to No Evidence For Chronic Lymes Disease, posted by bulldog2 on February 15, 2009, at 10:33:06
I truly appreciate everyone's passion on the Lyme subject. It is admittedly frustrating to see a low level of understanding of this intricate disease however.
And please, when we speak of Lyme disease, understand we are not talking about a bacteria. Lyme is an illness that results from the bite of a tick. This includes infection not only from Borrelia burgdorfen (Bb), but the many co-infections that also result. Furthermore, in the chronic form of Lyme, other factors take on an even more significant role - immune dysfunction, opportunistic infections, co-infections, biological toxins, metabolic and hormonal imbalances, and deconditioning. These other conditions can be the leftover ruins even after the original bacteria were killed, thus the name chronic Lyme disease. The damage was already done and there is a battlefield to clean up.
I would love to spend hours educating everyone on the controversies, diagnostics, treatments, prognosis, and physiology of Lyme and its Lyme-like co-infectors, but the geniuses who actually heal people every day do it so much better.
If, and only if, you truly want to learn more about the intricate topic of Lyme, one needs to ignore any literature older than 2007. Advances have happened in leaps and bounds in the last two years that make most of everything before that antiquated.
Advanced Topics In Lyme Disease...do a google search for the name Joseph J. Burrascano Jr, MD. He does an excellent job of discussing the controversies of Lyme, both sides, and all the details that you are not presently aware of as evidenced by your posts.
Dr Sam Donta, Head of Infectious Diseases Boston General Hospital. Type his name in a google search. Read whatever you find. People have flown from Alaska to be treated by him because, simply put, he gets people well when the other pinheads and MDs misunderstood the nature of Lyme.
My own doctor...Dr Rex G Carr. Type his name in a google search. He has a regionwide reputatation of getting people well.
The controversy of Lyme is passionate. It was also that way when everyone believed ulcers were caused by stress and then some wise guy came along and said it was a bacteria that caused ulcers. No proof. Anecdotal. Laughed him down. Of course now we know the wise guy was right after all.
The same scenario is being repeated with Lyme. The medical profession and scientific pinheads are the last ones to accept new truths.
Other references to round out your newfound expertise on Lyme:
The International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society. The "associated diseases" part is REAL important. It gives a hint to the intricacies of this infection. It aint just a simple everyday bacteria that any immune system can knock down. I can think of a dozen other serious illnesses that are caused by pathogens that our immune systems cannot knock down. We do have good immune systems, but some bugs are just a lot better at what they do than what we do.
Heck, even my local Nurse Practioner knows it is common knowledge how faulty the current lab tests are for accurate diagnosis of Lyme. I'm surprised people are uninformed enough to believe these tests are like Bibles. I mean, come on. Learn about this stuff before you debate it folks.
Lymenet.org has good info too.
Whatever you look at, make sure it is 2008 or newer.
For those who are Lyme skeptics, I agree with them on one thing, as does my doctor Dr Carr...IV antibiotics are rarely if ever justified or needed.
I wouldn't even have spent the time on this thread except that I am deeply aware of how guilty this disease is of causing stubborn psychiatric diseases that defy common treatments.
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