Posted by Vincent_QC on December 20, 2008, at 7:08:00
In reply to Re: Whats your sleep med? If bad Med induced insom » ParnateStarted2008, posted by Tony P on December 16, 2008, at 1:24:14
"Hey, I guess you dont need to be on Parnate to know of a good sleep med. Im curious as to what people are using to cope with med induced insomnia.
I currently take 15mgs of Zopiclone and 150mgs of Seroquel. Zopiclons lost its effectiveness even if i take 4, and Seroquel isn't as good as it was and it makes me a retarted zombie the next day..
If you take a sleep med let me know, Thanks"Maybe you don'T need to be on the Parnate to know all the good drugs to put you asleep, but the Parnate worse the insomnia for sure!!! lol ;-) At least, in my case, BUT I think I will be able to do something with it, I mean, I begin to feel a little bit more well with the Parnate, maybe not on my energy level during the day, even at night with the insomnia, but with my social life and I don't feel the need to increase my Valium dayli intake on it, and that's a great improve cause normally AD boost my intake of Valium cause I feel more anxious... I will see with the time and with my next dose increase next week...I hope the insomnia will not get worst...that's kill me to sleep only 2-3 hours by night in a row...Anyway's...
I also found the Remeron to be the best drug to put you asleep...but at 15 mg...the less you take of it and the more well you will sleep, at 30mg, Mirtazipine(Remeron)begin to be more an active drug, with is NE and SE dual action. I think it's not recommended with the Parnate because of it's NE activity ...is that right? IF it's not the case, I have some leftover pills of Remeron 15mg here, I will take them to help me to sleep...lol
I found the Zopiclone to be not very effective, 7.5mg if Zopiclone is equal to 5mg of Valium...so 4 pills make en equivalent action to 20mg of Valium...that's not really powerfull... That's not wirking on me anyway probably because i'm addicte to benzos drugs and I already take a 20mg of Valium during the day and the Valium is the type of benzo who make you sleepy a lot at the begining but you get used of this (side-effect) fast. The Zopiclone leave a really bad taste in the nouth also the day after you take it, a metallic taste that I found to be really (disgusting)...sorry for the BAD word... ;-)
Seroquel-xr is seroquel...mean what it mean. You know my history on it...yeah you sleep but do you need something to make you sleepy all day long after? I don't think so...zombie feeling is not very interresting.
Melatonin...what I can say about this...I lost 5 $ when I buy a bottle of it...3mg caps...Take 9mg the first night and get nothing. take 12mg the night after, feel nothing, don't sleep more and don't help to fall asleep more fast or stay in the bed more time...I got migraine with it, I don'T know if it's related, but the 2 nights I try it I had migraine the day after...Not very effective, your body make natural melatonin at night anyway, that's not a drugs, that's an hormone...I think you will have more chance to sleep well with Unisom...or Unisom2 who have a different ingredient in it than the regular SleepAid or Gravol medecine, but good luck to find it(Unisom2).
Insomnia will be always a BIG problem, for depressive people or for the others illiness like social phobia or general anxiety...name them... we all want to sleep more well, but at the same time, we put a lot of pressure on us if we don't sleep well...I don'T know if you follow me?...Bad english again!!! lol I just wanted to say that if I sleep really bad one night, the day after I will feel without energy and I will get an migraine and I will get less motivated to do something cause I know I don't sleep a lot...it's like a big circle that never ending...I don't sleep a lot, I will have a bad day the day after cause I will lack the energy and the motivation do to something, I will stay in my "pajamas" all day long, return in my bed, try to sleep, I will get more tired because of this, I will get more anxious if I know I have something to do at night, like going out with a friend, and I will wonder if I will be able to find the energy to do it at night and I will try to sleep during the day but I will nt be able and I will probably go out at night, feeling tired as hell, not enjoy my night with my friend, and I will get home, tired, jump in my bed and the next thing I will know is that i'm awake after 2 hours! Very interresting!... That's the magic feeling of insomnia...
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