Posted by glennb on December 8, 2008, at 18:24:40
In reply to Re: Nortriptyline trial a failure? » glennb, posted by bleauberry on December 7, 2008, at 10:56:04
You're trying antibiotics to attack depression or do you have other problems?
LTN, I had never heard of. I just googled and I see it looks interesting. I know there are lots of other boards but what are the essential boards you use to keep on top of things?
On the stimulants. I took adderall for about a year with prozac and for awhile the mix included risperidone. For the first few months I did well and then started to decline. I don't believe the adderall had anything to do with, it just happened to be in the mix at the time.
Then I went off of it and when on an effexor trial which was a total bust. Then a different doctor prescribed me oxycodone for depression and also put me on adderall and prozac at the same time. I tried this for a week, nothing dramatic. I complained of nauseau so was switched to dexedrine and did another week, nothing dramatic and then that experiment was scratched. It is the left over oxycodone that I have been playing with. I think it has worked better now because I was in more distress when I initially was put on it. I also am on a TCA now and wikipedia says TCA's and opiods reinforce each other, though I have no idea whether that's true or not.
> Yeah, I hear ya on Provigil. Ya know, it actually made me slip into a deeper depression really fast? Lots of people think they just sunk deeper as a natural part of the disease but never figure it was the med doing it. I've done challenge tests with various meds to confirm whether they really were bad for me or not. Scary. Every time, bad or worse than the first.
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> As for the stimulants, I'm not sure if you took them in combination with serotonin ADs? That seems to be the way they work the best. But the correct dosage and length of time (2 to 3 weeks) is needed. Sure they hit fast, but that is not the true effect. The other real important thing, as far as I am concerned, is that the meds are brand and not generic. For example, generic Dexedrine is a world different than GSK Dexedrine, with GSK being profoundly better and feels like a different drug.
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> You mentioned something interesting. There could be an opioid connection. That would bring into the picture two easily attainable things of different mechanisms but both enhancing the opioid function. One would be Tramadol. At other forums you would be amazed how many people have found it to be that magic med they've missed for tens of years. Dependence, sure. But who cares if one can assume a normal life again. Heck, diabetics and heart patients are dependent on their meds too. The other strategy would be LDN (low dose naltrexone) in combination with whatever else helps you. Do a google search on LDN. Doses of just 1.5mg to 4.5mg can do some astounding things. I was only on 1.5mg monotherapy for 2 weeks and I have to admit I was impressed. I plan to go back on, but for now my main focus is an antiobiotic assault without anything else in the mix.
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