Posted by JadeKelly on November 24, 2008, at 19:05:39
In reply to Re: Protein powder=OK, posted by desolationrower on November 24, 2008, at 17:02:18
> > > argh, PROTEIN POWDER IS FINE.
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> > Why the "argh"?
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> Ha, i just feel like i've been saying this a bunch and noone is listening. I just don't want bad info to sit here that someone might come across in the future.
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> > I just re-checked the protien powder we have. Whey protein powder (at least some) have soybean in them.
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> > Many protien powders get their protien from Soy.
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> > We are not allowed to have soy with MAOI's.
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> > Therefore, many protien powders are NOT fine. Maybe some are.
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> I'm not sure why whey would have soy in it, unless its a blended protein.
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> At any rate, the soy that is disallowed is fermented soy: soy sauce, black beans, miso soups, etc. Fresh soya is not a problem. It is when it sits and is fermented by bacteria, the tyrosine is decarboxylated into tyramine. The key thing is bacteria & time.
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> > If I was misinformed here, I'm sorry. I thought from PDoc that Tyramine AND tyrosine were off limits when listed in ingredients.
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> Tyrosine if a common amino acid. It is is meat, milk, etc. It is not a problem. In fact it is synthesized in the body if needed. It is used for many things, including production of thyroid hormones.
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> Now, i still don't recommend soya, as i think there are some outstanding issues wrt its affect on hormones, that I haven't looking into fully; it might be beneficial, or negative. Whey has health benefits, and it doesn't taste like ick. But i i don't think it is a problem with MAOI.
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> -d/rd/r,
I understand your frustration, I'm new, what do I know. Well one, you may have seen on the board I had a hypertensive crisis that was either spontanious (pretty rare) or I missed something, 11 days into Parnate. You guys have taught me to be able to back up what I say. I looked up a sight that is actually on the board, the new food list I believe, it says specifically no tyrosine. I believe they mean listed in the ingredients.
They specifically say no Soy, and in another section they say no fermented soy.
My point is, practically speaking, I'm sure you are right, you know tons more than I do. But please know I don't just post things I think might be true. I'll ask my PDoc when I see him. You see it as "bad" info. I geuss I'd rather err on the side of caution for now.
Btw-I didn't have time to read all posts earlier so missed your shake comments. I would NEVER knowingly cross your opinion....yet.
Don't worry, I'll catch up. This is my first depression.
~Jade
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