Posted by iladvocate on September 7, 2008, at 11:45:49
In reply to Re: Glycine As a Primary Antipsychotic » iladvocate, posted by Quintal on September 7, 2008, at 11:34:58
> If I start taking glycine I will let my pdoc know. He's aware I take tianeptine and a painkiller that he doesn't prescribe, so I don't think he would be concerned if I started taking glycine. I've thought about bringing in studies on tianeptine, but he doesn't seem bothered about it so long as it works for me. Since I've tried practically everything and directed my own care for so long his attitude is "I don't know what to suggest any more. What do you think will work?".
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> I have bipolar disorder and had a major manic episode last year. When I came out of hospital I started taking my high dose calcium, magnesium and zinc supplement again and it seemed to have an antimanic effect, so it would be interesting to see if glycine in addition to that has any effect on some of the residual psychotic symptoms. I don't take an antipsychotic because they're fairly mild. During the time when I had no medical care I thought about seeing a naturopathic doctor who might be better informed and more interested in these things, but I live in a rural area and I couldn't find any within a reasonable distance. I don't think I could afford one either. Realistically, any experimentation with natural subsatances is going to be under my own direction. I'm sorry if you find that upsetting, but that's the way it is for me. I hope the introduction of prescription medicines like Deplin will lead to conventional doctors being more aware of the benefits of nutritional medicine, but until it becomes more widely accepted I think a lot of people are going to have to use their own initiative if they use this approach.
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> I hope my doctor would consider using glycine in a clinical setting, perhaps for some of his more seriously ill patients who aren't responding to conventional antispychotics. I will print off the Javitt essay for him to look at when I see him on Thursday. I don't think my doctor could do any reliable research in my case because there are too many factors that are beyond his control, but it might be of benefit to other people who he treats. He deals mostly with hospital inpatients suffering from psychosis, so this is his area of interest.
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> QYes I understand. I take rhodiola for tardive dyskinesia and discussed that with people. I understand that people take natural remedies. Its just that glycine is not a natural remedy. Its a medication that is an antipsychotic that they may use in conventional medicine in the future or one nearly like it. For example it is supposed to have somewhat of an anti-manic effect so in me without a mood stabilizer I did encounter some depression. I am just curious if you have bipolar why you are on an anti-depressent? An anti depressent could bring on a manic episode. You would be better off on a mood stabilizer such as Lamictal. One that is supposed to be good is the medication Lovaza which is an anti-cholesterol medication in study for mood stabilization as its a synthetic version of fish oil, a known mood stabilizer. Glycine of course is used for control of psychosis and hasn't shown that much of an effect on mood control. What pain killer are you taking? They'd have to rule out an interaction with that. I don't know of any interactions from glycine with known medications that have been found so far except Clozaril which I know you don't take but for anyone reading this they can't be taken together. But if you let your doctor know and he accepts it and you make an informed decision that sounds reasonable.
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