Posted by yxibow on June 11, 2008, at 1:12:23
In reply to Re: 'Growing Up Bipolar' in Newsweek » yxibow, posted by Phillipa on June 10, 2008, at 20:48:55
> Sorry Jay I agree with B2chica. And usually motrin and tylenol are alternated for a child with a high fever. Many cases of autism have been traced to the vaccines children receive. Lived next door to a Mother who's second child was fine until vaccinations then he became extremely autistic. Her third child was unvaccinated and attends public school. Phillipa
You can too (I didn't ask, but thats fine) -- and I think my point was missed -- not alternated -- ibuprofen will -not- stop a fever very well, as a NSAID it stops chronic pain and tension headaches much more than being an antipyretic.
My point was that acetaminophen (Tylenol) is the choice of antipyretic (fever reducer) for most people, because it is the most effective for stopping fevers, other than aspirin, which is not given to people under 18 because of the rare possibility of Reye's Syndrome.
What I was trying to say and I guess wasn't carried across is that Tylenol can damage the liver in awful ways if one exceeds the maximum dosage not that much more than the maximum recommmended amount. And my point was in children, it has to be given in liquid drops or mini capsules because children by weight have much smaller livers.
Vaccinations and autism is an extremely controversial subject -- yes, there have been case reports of such things, but one has to remember they are case reports. Just as I have a disorder that I don't think anybody else has so I search, and I ponder anything, what caused this, how can I fix this, what will my life be like, its a very scary situation that I have never encountered.
The same thing can be said -- and I'm not trying to compare a complicated syndrome that can render some people unable to communicate with society even though they may be very bright, is that causation is not correlation, not always.
That is there may be different explanations why, if it is true, that a vaccine precipitated autism -- parallel things may have been going on at the same time, the vaccine may have been tainted.
And because autism is such an unexplored frontier, knowledge only beginning to be expanded -- frightened parents, rightfully so, search for every possible explanation.
Yes, 1 in a million people who get the flu vaccine can get a rare disorder, possibly --- but you also have to realize that 20 million people died in Europe from a strain of the flu in WWI, exceeding or being the same as the number of casualties of war.
Not to lessen that further, but my point is, if you remember the story of Typhoid Mary (it was estimated she infected 47 people, 3 who were casualties and had to be quarantined) -- a carrier, an unvaccinated individual who has a particular illness but doesn't manifest it, can in turn pass it on to numerous people around them.
This is especially true for children, because they play with each other in close quarters, and don't know yet that you shouldn't touch and rub your eyes or any part of your face after playing with your playfriends. (This goes for adults too, because those are the most vulnerable points of entry for any virus or bacterium)
It wasn't Mary's fault as an individual, how did she know, but that is and still holds today an example of just what can happen when people refuse to vaccinate their children.Mumps and measles have returned in university regions (close quarters again) -- illnesses that have been eradicated... and I'm not saying its all because of vaccines, strains may have been changing, but there can be connections.
--- anyway that's my belief, one is entitled to their own opinion, but courts have battled over this before, because it is so important to the rest of society not to have potentially fatal illnesses that largely have disappeared. Such as tuberculosis and I forget the others, that school districts will not admit, or colleges for that matter unless it can be proven that someone was already vaccinated. I had to do so for entry to university.
-- tidingsJay
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