Posted by ace on May 19, 2008, at 1:59:09
In reply to Re: Nardil- The best AD ever......., posted by Simon79 on May 14, 2008, at 0:00:57
> I hope I'm not bugging you too muchNot possible!
but I have one last question and you are such a wealth of knowledge I thought I would give it a shot
> Do you think if somebody has had severe social anxiety such as I have for 10 years (and overcome most of it (i think i will)) if they have a baby the baby would develope social anxiety also?These is an extremely hard qstn to answer in a unequivocal way as there are so many variables in question. However, I would say there is a high chance. Now, I feel strongly that what set your psychiatric syndrome off (in this case, we are talking about Social Anxiety) was a trauma that caused a subtle change in brain biochemistry which got worse over time (and, more than likely, added to via further trauma) I think you were born with a certain vunrebality with regards your biochemistry (of the brain)
For example: Some people are born with big broad shoulders, some are board with much less broad shoulders.
Analogous to this, is the brain. I feel some are born with staunch biochemistry which can withstand extrenal trauma (even to a great degree) Unfortunately, others are born with a 'weaker' biochemistry...just waiting for a trauma to cause a lesion/inbalance in the brain.
That is just life. No one is better than anyone else I feel. I remember painfully when my Mum called me 'stupid' in a angry voice, for not being able to tie my shoelaces correctly when I was younger. But the same happened with my brother and it did not have such an effect on him.
This isn't my dear Mums fault- it is no ones fault I feel. it' life.
Now, depending on your husbands/partners biological make-up, we see your situation.I feel it is definately likely- even more so if your husband/partner does suffer psychiatric illness.
But it is not definite!
I would suggest treating the child with the utmost care (which I am sure you would!)- maybe when Mothers get so stressed at times, they can express anger at the child- I would advice against this- but life is hard!
My psychologist reckons my social anxiety is larely a psychological problem (psychologists 4 ya) but he acknowledges that part of the problem is that I am more genetically vulnerable to anxiety than most (genes).
There is a huge debate with regards to genes and mental illness. I am certain there is genetic factors involved...but proving it, as well as any psychiatric illness, is not going to be easy.I am not a fan of psychology at all! I feel it is cruel to say that severe mental illnees is 'psychological', and the patient must work against the symptoms. This really makes things worse, from what I have seen! I think accept the symptoms, all the time knowing you are not to blame, and you are just as good as anyone. Don't try to struggle and 'fight' against the symptoms, I feel. Let medication do it's job, and seek out friends, family, etc etc etc
I just don't want 2 have a child and for them to have to go through the ten years of hell I have been through, I think it would be unfair on the child, and selfish on my part for wanting to have a kid without thinking about the potential hell/suffering they might go through.I understand. This is an admirable attitude. But you have already thought about about the potential for the child to feel pain!!!
There is no 100% guarantee that the child would inherit similiar problems. And if they did, that is not your fault, and they can be dealed with. Life brings us so much! I think it would be MORE unfair to deny yourself the right to procreate....Do you have any children?
No I don't. But I absolutely intend too. I'm enough of a child myself still at the moment!!!
Did they develope social anxiety? What's your take/opinion/advice on this issue? The reason I am asking this is because guys want to have gf's, and gf's eventually want to get married and many want to have a child.
> My opinion is that if my partner is not genetically susceptible to anxiety then the child should be alright because the child we be inheriting only half of my genes and social anxiety is half genetic and half psychological also I believe.I see what your saying here. Sorry i didn't read this before answering above! You do seem very worried and anxious about this issue...a lot of rumination on this? It's so hard- I would not try to analyse genetic factors, and try to predict whether your child would have a similiar condition. I really feel you will just get so anxious about it. And, unfortunately, science can't provide the answers. I think you have a responsible and caring attitude, and, if your child developed a similiar problem, you would be such a great Doctor to him/her!
I really hope this helps, please stay in touch....!God Bless You,
Andrew
> P.s thanks for the clinical trials on nardil
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> This brings back memories! Before I started Nardil I was drinking every day- large quantities. In order to go out, without anxiety, I had to be intoxicated. This was obviously detrimental to so many things.
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> I remeber talking about alcohol to my MD. I was very concerned that I wasn't going to be able to drink.....I didn't wan't to loose my alcohol!!!
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> After starting Nardil I stopped. After 6 weeks, I thought "this is way better than any beer!!" In 7 years (almost) I have been intoxicated twice....both times I drank tap beer (which is contraindicated) and I had no problems at all- except it gave me a heightened response to the alcohol.
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> To answer your question, I would most certainly AVOID alcohol whilst waiting for Nardil to kick in (certainly not have 4 drinks a day). I DO feel it can interfere, and I have seen evidence for this. I can't explain exactly why I'm sorry.
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> When Nardil kicks in, and I strongly feel it will!, I would advice to drink bottled beer (tyramine can accumulate in the pipes- resulting in a possible HT crises) I have mentioned this before. I would personally be moderate in my intake.
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> Do you drink in order to supress psychiatric syndromes, or is it a social thing??
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