Posted by medjuggler on March 10, 2008, at 14:11:44
In reply to Re: Aaaaaarrrrghhh I need to ejaculate, posted by squatlover on March 10, 2008, at 9:42:07
> Trouble is with periactin is that it says on the packet very clearly DO NOT USE WITH MAO-Is - so i am steering clear - did you actually use it with an mao-i?
Hi squatlover (by the way, what are squats?)
I am currently taking 1g of Horny Goat Weed (also known as Epimedium) per day, standardised at 20% icariin - THE active ingredient in HGW. AND YES, I am taking an MAOI with it - Marplan at 50mg/day. It is working VERY well at counteracting the anorgasmia. But it is NOT contained in any formula. It is pure HGW herbal extract made by and sold by a particular company. Here is that very product again: http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=1644
It contains NO other herbs and is a very potent product especially at the sugested dosage (1g/day). The problem with many hebal products is that they contain variable amounts, qualities & standardisations from company to company, product to product that you cannot simply rule out its benifits just because one particular product didn't work. St.Johns Wort is a CLASSIC example. I have tried many different brands of St.Johns Wort & none have worked except one, and that was Kira LI-160. And DAMN is that a good antidepressant! Just a pitty it didn't help the anxiety :(
So just because the brand you went for did diddly s**t for you, doesn't mean that its an ineffective product that wont help you - herbal products VERY RARELY work for me & this is one of the very few that has. And like I said before, even the majority of brands of a particular herb will prove useless - Ginseng is another example. I've only ever found one usefull Ginseng product, & that was from a chinese herbal shop & came in a jar with a consistancy like thick treacle or mollasses. Far unlike all the powdered capsule & pill forms you get at the health store. If you do have one more blast at HGW then at least try one which someone has actually had success from themselves, which is usually a good sign that its a half decent product deserving some credit.The fact about periactin (cyproheptadine) is that people HAVE used it with substantial success to counteract anorgasmia caused by MAOIs, Nardil in particular. It has also been used together with Bethanechol for anorgasmia, again caused by MAOIs. Not only that, but Cyproheptadine is actually used in cases of Serotonin Syndrome! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyproheptadine
Why not ask this person of his experience with both (if he ever switches his babblemail on that is!). He had great success on the combo: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20071213/msgs/801583.html
The current problem with MAOIs is that the large majority of docs & pdocs simply aren't familiar enough with them to feel comfortable trying various other meds out with them. Yet MANY people have & are using so'called contra-indicated meds with them - amphetamines, SSRIs (yes HONESTLY!), Tryptophan (Optimax) & 5-HTP, Wellbutrin, Provigil, etc, etc, etc......
I myself am prescribed 300mg Wellbutrin with my Marplan & also when I was on Nardil too. 450mg on Nardil infact. I also currently take 50mg 5-HTP 3-4 times per week wich is a great enhancement, yet NOTHING resembling the slightest bit of Serotonin Syndrome & I've been doing that since early Jan.At the end of the day, if your not happy about trying something out then there is only one answer for it - seek proffesional medical advice! :)
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