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Re: That Way Lies Madness

Posted by linkadge on October 23, 2007, at 21:06:50

In reply to Re: That Way Lies Madness » linkadge, posted by Squiggles on October 23, 2007, at 20:19:39

>Are you really interested in alleviating the
>horrible suffering of mental illness, or are
>you trying to introduce new methods which have
>not been tested on many people?

The reason that many of the mentioned treatments have not been tested is that there is no money for such research. Drug companies don't care much either nowadays about helping people, its about $. If lithium were not approved by now for bipolar, it probably wouldn't be. Things have changed since lithium was approved. Back then, Big Pharma didn't exist as we know it now.

There is increasing patient experience with such treatments. Even STEPBD, used inositol to compare to risperidal in the treatment of bipoalar depression. Can you guess what STEPBD found in this study?

Patient exposure to such agents can take many forms. The FDA does not know everything. How do you think we learn more about potential future treatments? If every time somebody claimed to get better on something that wasn't FDA approved was called a quack, we woudn't really get any new treatments now would we?

Somtimes too, the picture of approved treatments is not completely truthful or accurate. Lamotrigine is used for bipolar depression dispite only being marginally sucessful in like 2 out of 15 trials. Antidepressants often fail to outperform placebo.

>You may never have experienced any of these
>states, because i think that if you did, you
>would either have more compassion, or rush
>to the nearest pharmacy for anything to escape
>the states people can fall into.

Again, you really don't know what you are talking about by making a claim like that. I am not going to be taunted into a game of "my disease is worse than your disease". I know where I've been, and thats all that matters.

Again, I never acused anybody's decision to take medications. I just simply said that some people can get better without medicaitons, and this doesn't conclusivly cast judgement on the sevarity of their desease.


>Maybe they should train doctors with simulation
>modules of these states. Mental illness is
>a serious business, not to be taken lightly and
>as part of general good health exercises.

I never said it was a simple disease. Some alternative treatments are powerful. Like Jamal said, SAMe is strong stuff.

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