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Re: Hang in there Fred

Posted by missliz on April 19, 2007, at 1:40:52

In reply to Re: Hang in there Fred » missliz, posted by FredPotter on April 18, 2007, at 20:33:08

Yikes! No wonder you feel like garbage. Effexor is bizarre stuff, terrible withdrawal- meaning a big old brain insult- and you may have had a rather short washout for that particular c$***y SSRI. Although I don't remember the washouts, I refuse to ever take the junk again.
Statins are pretty toxic from what I hear, I've never taken them but have had friends have frightening side effects from them. I don't know what peice of biochemistry you refer to, but the word in taking care of yourself through common sense underground is that fish oil and eating green vegetables instead of Ho Ho's will do what an expensive toxic statin does for a great many people. My doctor backs this up.
A lot of commonly used wonder drugs have more to do with profit than best treatment, and statins are in that column. I truthfully don't remember the details- but a few people actually need them and the rest need a healthier diet. This does not pay for new Gulfstream jets, though, so statins are pushed hard.
I'd worry more about how you're going to deal with the misery while you wait. And the current Nardil is a reformulation of the original Warner Lambert wonder drug (gee, thanks, Phizer) so the dose can need more tweaking than you think. Bioavailability can be different than the books say, so if you aren't chilling soon talk to the psydoc about tweaking the dose up.
Famous Doc wrote that if an MAOI seems not to be working, it's the dose- because MAOIs ALWAYS work. You just have to ride that stumbling pony for two months. It's much worse on Parnate- the rebuild job it does on the functional matrix you live in can be quite a hive of busy worker bees, and it's a shocking thing to be recreated as not depressed in such a short period of time. Really good, but a shock.
So get a new hobby. Being a diagnosis won't work anymore. That's the biggest MAOI failure- people who are so bought into the mental illness machine they have nothing left and don't realize they need to go out and live. get a library card and crawl the stacks for something interesting. it'll take your mind off how crummy you feel.
Exhaustion, muscle aches, and tight chest are all anxiety and mood disorder symptoms. You need to put the depression into remission before you can parse symptoms of other diseases.
Go read Ken Gillman on this at Psychotropical.com. He knows MAOIs.


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