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Re: imsomnia-so bad what helps? » Declan

Posted by yxibow on March 14, 2007, at 3:15:18

In reply to Re: imsomnia-so bad what helps?, posted by Declan on March 13, 2007, at 19:11:02

> Do we have any good sleep aids?
>
> Barbiturates I don't need to comment on.

Agreed.

> Benzos damage sleep architecture.

A lot of sleep agents do, but at the end of the day, are you sleeping or not?

> Remeron and Periactin are too brutal and last till lunch the next day.

If taken earlier in the evening and a very low dose, it might be better -- it is REM enhancing.

> Melatonin is no help

Have you ever tried Rozerem -- it is quite more powerful than Melatonin, at least I know for one person -- unfortunately I am such an insomniac that a lot of things don't work well.
>
> Dothep is awful.
>
> Ditto antihistamines.
>
>
>
> How long the next day does Seroquel last? And,
> Is it unpleasant? Like antihistamines, I guess?

Well I take 600 now down from 750 and 800.

Its.. mm... well not as bad as Trazodone, which I would never recommend to a male or someone with any psychiatric problems actually, both because of priapisms, and its metabolite mCPP which can cause idiosyncratic and psychotic conditions.

At 12.5 or 25mg, Seroquel is not giving any D2 really, so basically you're just getting a fair dose of H1. Take it earlier than you think you're going to sleep and be in bed. Then it will not be as groggy the next day. I suppose you can become habituated in a sense like Trazodone, but I think it takes longer. A slice of Zyprexa would probably be similar but from what I recall the tablets are so hard to cut that you'd have to smash a 2.5mg tablet. I don't know if it is used regularly for sleep because of that.

-- tidings

 

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