Posted by mindevolution on January 30, 2007, at 22:30:27
In reply to Re: Dopaminergic/schizophrenia link discovered?, posted by linkadge on January 30, 2007, at 21:23:29
> And what kinds of tests are they doing on the drugs? They are likely just doing the most rudimentary tests. Oh sure, a little cancer screening, make sure the drug doesn't cause spontanious death.even if they find that it does, the company just misplaces the study and never publishes it, and then puts pressure on the next academics to come up with the "correct results" otherwise the university's funding could be cut, and the universities quite often make "difficult" academics resign: http://www.slate.com/id/2133061/
> And combinations, my goodness. I remember reading that when sertraline and some anticonvulsant were combined they caused some massive increase in lipid peroxidation, oxidative stress, mitochondrial dsyfunction etc.
I completely forgot about that!
> No wonder bipolars don't get better. Take a disease where mitochondial and glial function is already out of whack, and then throw 10 drugs together and hope it all just magically works out. Its all just symptomatic treatment, what happens under the seems could be very ugly.
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> What bothers me too is how psychiatry just kind of makes these seemless transitions from one concept to the next. Its done ever so slowly and carefully that to the untrained eye it all seems to make sense.couldn't have said it better myself, it's david copperfield at his best!
> They are always trying to link things and connect things to make it seem like they were right all along.
> If a problem ever comes down to either the patient or the drug, it is the patient.
like delusion, equals illness, equals genetic links + structural brain abnormalities + problems with brain chemistry, equals premature mental degeneration, equals danger to society, equals really severe disease, equals better treat the patient against their will for extended periods of time with drugs that do cause brain degeneration, movement disorders, diabetes, sudden death, reduction in life expectancy. so therefore delusions = persons with premature degenerative dementia and strange facial and body ticks with a high risk of violence, sudden death or suicide. see, nothing up this sleeve, and nothing up that sleeve. and it is what the general public believe about the supposedly most dangerous and destructive mental illness there is!
the patient says: "I only thought the aliens were going to pick me up after smoking some pot, but the drugs you forced me to take caused my facial ticks and strange walk and muscle spasms, my brain to melt, and gave me diabetes and made me hallucinate, depressed, suicidal and violent". the doctors replies: "that was your disease, now take your medicine!"
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