Posted by yxibow on January 19, 2007, at 10:04:56
In reply to Re: Ketamine for depression.......any experiences? » yxibow, posted by Quintal on January 18, 2007, at 20:28:20
> >Why are we discussing the risks of illicit Ketamine use by snorting it
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> Probably because it has been found an effective treatment for depression, rovers95 has illicit access to it and is curious.
So we can discuss cocaine, crack, crystal meth, stolen veterinary medications, stolen pharmaceuticals, and every other hard street drug as great opportunities for a board that I thought was apparently devoted to discussion of legal substances ?>
> >The risks first of all are a deviated septum from hucking freebase up your nose.
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> Unlikely with ketamine at low doses.No comment. Let's all freebase Cymbalta.
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> > And yes, a "k-hole" at some point could happen, it isn't predictable, you're not a cat or a horse, a child, or a special need patient
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> Treatment isn't predictable for animals and children either. People still get stuck in K-holes when ketamine is used in medicine. I saw a programme a while ago where a guy was given ketamine for pain after breaking his leg as an alternative to morphine and he started having and out-of-body experience. The doctors calmed him with midazolam.Yes... In medicine. Where there are trained doctors to do this, not watchers and Erowid Vault experiences.
> >I can't believe I'm actually typing this.
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> That's alright. You may be having a dissociative reaction. Try to stay calm, take deep breaths and back away from the computer.Please be civil in your conversations. I am offended and it seems you have a vendetta against my postings on the board.
> >being monitored by an anesthesiologist IN SURGERY
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> Rovers95 isn't using anaesthetic doses of ketamine.How do you know? This is just claimed.
> >to prevent you from FORGETTING WHO YOU ARE with a dissociative substance.
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> That may be part of the therapeutic action of dissociatives - temporarily being lifted out of ego games and returning to everyday life with fresh eyes. You seem to find the idea of breaking rules and transcending ego threatening yxibow but others may not. It is a good idea to have a 'sitter' to supervise while taking dissociative drugs like ketamine though.
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> >While we're at it, why not discuss the use of Dextromethorphan or PCP for depression. Um... no I don't think so.
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> Why on Earth not yxibow? We already have discussions on buprenorphine, Adderall, codeine, and Ritalin in the treatment of depression. I think it would be very interesting to hear from people who have taken PCP and DXM (I have a bottle in my cupboard for that very purpose).
Well, then take that bottle and go Robotripping if you want and vomit and have all the effects of downing a bottle of dextromethorphan, but please don't use my tax dollars to bail yourself out at the hosital.
Good heavens this board is going wierd.
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