Posted by yxibow on December 28, 2006, at 20:13:17
In reply to Re: Ativan and Alcohol » yxibow, posted by Quintal on December 28, 2006, at 18:41:47
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> >Oh boy -- I didn't want to have another argument but 8mg of Klonopin (that's 160mg of Valium), and hard liquor, and GHB, and barbiturates is a setup for instant respiratory depression and a coma unless you happen to be 6'9 and weigh 280lbs, and even then I'm not sure.
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> If they were taken all at the same time I imagine that would be true, but that would be crazy and suicidal. I took 8mg (more actually) and drank alcohol (lager, beer or wine) and GHB (occasionally at the same time in low doses). I also took 65mg Phenobarbital with 4mg Klonopin and just felt a little drowsy.
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> I *did* have respiratory depression (almost failure) however with 20mg Klonopin and 800mg tramadol. I'm well aware of how astronomical those figures are and I also know I took that amount and survived. I'm a mere 5'9" and weigh something in the region of 180lb but I've always needed high doses of meds except with stimulants. Tolerance can develop rapidly to both opiates and benzos and I had been taking both for many months (years in the case of benzos). I also seem to be a fast metaboliser - those are the only explanations I can offer.
I was going to say you had to be a fast metabolizer -- 20mg of clonazepam is not normally taken except in epileptic settings. But I understand, I am too -- I don't like some levels of medications I have to take but that is one explanation for it. Although I don't have OCD particularly (well technically I do slightly at the moment, you do for life), it can fall in "the spectrum" and people with OCD can apparently also be fast metabolizers with medication.Please be careful :( -- respiratory depression with benzodiazepines and most definately with barbiturates can be fatal and requires things like flumazenil and heroic efforts in the ER.
Anyhow.. on a more upbeat tone, tie the new year in safely.
-- tidings
Jay
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